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    Quote Originally Posted by Skistack View Post
    Is anyone else having a hard time visualizing AB in a Western?


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    He would share the steak knives around the fire.

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    where is columbo ?
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    Alec Baldwin WTF

    Quote Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
    Do you really think he has a day-to-day role in the production?

    I've always assumed these big money guys get a "producer" credit for providing financing, but ultimately there are many levels of other folks who are "in charge".

    Seems we have a few here who have actually worked on movies so would be interested to hear their opinions. But I can't imagine AB as a "producer" actually had much if anything to do with this level of the actual production of the filming.
    It all kind of depends on the deal so it’s hard to say without knowing, but you’re right that he likely was not “in charge” on set.

    Ultimately some entity/production company is responsible for holding insurance on the film. I’d be very surprised if Baldwin was a liable part of that entity, but you never know. But I would guess that entity, and every single producer, including Baldwin, is about to be sued.

    This article says the AD told Baldwin the gun was safe. Which is not normal in my experience.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...e-set.amp.html

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    ^^ NYT paywall here on that article. Is there a free readable version?

    Wife has a subscription, but is already in bed and I don't have her login on my phone. Suppose I can wait until tomorrow.

    I should be in bed too.. but, Go Sox!!

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    Alec Baldwin WTF

    Quote Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
    ^^ NYT paywall here on that article. Is there a free readable version?

    Wife has a subscription, but is already in bed and I don't have her login on my phone. Suppose I can wait until tomorrow.

    I should be in bed too.. but, Go Sox!!
    No prob here’s a copy/paste:

    In a statement, the actor said his “heart is broken” after a gun he used as a prop killed the movie’s cinematographer and wounded its director in New Mexico. The Santa Fe County sheriff’s office is investigating and hopes to have more information early next week.

    The assistant director of the western film “Rust” grabbed a prop pistol from a gray cart and handed it to the movie’s star, Alec Baldwin, shouting “cold gun!” — which was supposed to indicate that it did not contain any live rounds, and was safe to handle around the crew huddled by the camera.

    But the weapon fired when Mr. Baldwin pulled the trigger a few minutes later, discharging a live projectile that hit the director, Joel Souza, in the shoulder and struck the director of photography, Halyna Hutchins, in the chest, killing her.

    The first official account of the killing, which has rocked the entertainment industry and raised questions about workplace safety issues in film productions, was released late Friday in an affidavit filed by the Santa Fe County sheriff’s department seeking to search the rustic wooden building where the shooting happened.

    A state magistrate judge granted the request, which includes an examination of the gun for biological evidence as well as a review of cameras, film, memory cards or other video recorders that may provide information in the case. Mr. Baldwin has cooperated with investigators, a spokesman for the department said. No charges have been filed in the shooting.

    While the five-page filing provides many basic logistical details of the shooting, it leaves many questions unanswered — namely how a live round ended up in a gun fired by an actor.

    The assistant director “did not know live rounds were in the prop gun,” Detective Joel Cano wrote in the affidavit.

    The weapon was “set up” on the tray by the movie’s weapons specialist, or armorer, along with a Western-style gun belt used in the scene. Detective Cano did not say what the armorer told investigators who arrived at the Bonanza Creek resort, where the film was shooting.

    Ms. Hutchins, who was 42, was sitting in front of Mr. Souza, the director, watching the scene play out when the projectile struck her, the police said.

    The armorer “was given the prop gun after it was fired by actor Alec Baldwin” and “then took the spent casing” out of the weapon before handing it over to the police, Detective Cano wrote.

    Mr. Baldwin “was wearing Old Western style clothing during the filming,” and changed into his street clothes before turning over his costume to the department’s evidence technician, he wrote.

    “These clothes appeared to have blood stains,” Detective Cano added

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    Baldwins costume blood stained too? Must have been close..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
    Baldwins costume blood stained too? Must have been close..
    More likely he got blood on his clothing when he tried to help a mortally wounded colleague and seriously wounded friend/colleague. I cannot imagine such a horrific accident taking place by ones own hand. Just horrific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyCarter View Post
    I assume he's just pulling together the diagrams showing where the second gunman was likely hiding.
    And what effect the wind had on the bullet's trajectory.

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    Baldwin after leaving the sheriffs office having given his statement. Guy is gonna be fucked in the head and still has all the funerals and lawsuits to go through.

    Raw deal for him and the family of the crew that was killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seano732 View Post
    Oh I agree. The LA Times is reporting there was some sort of crew walkout the day before the shooting….

    ETA found it:
    https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...walked-off-set
    Yep. Camera crew walked out the day before due to safety concerns according to a friend in the movie business in NM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Hmmm...where is Puregravity? We need some investigating work done here.
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    where is columbo ?
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    It was a low budget movie. I can’t see Baldwin taking a back seat on anything. He is fucked.

    Of all the wtf moments you can think of, I can’t imagine anything worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX View Post

    Regardless of how his accident occurred, I just can't understand how anyone can consider a blank a safe option. If you pop the bullet out of, say, a standard .45 ACP round, and replace it with wadding, you're still firing a projectile (with 230 grains behind it) at more than 800 FPS. Jello could fuck you up at that velocity.
    Quote Originally Posted by MontuckyFried View Post
    Pretty sure "theatre" blanks are supposed to be something WAY lower, like 40 grains. Still, not a fun time to get hit in the face by a wad, and they should ALWAYS be treated with the utmost respect, however a blank shouldn't be freaking lethal when proper precautions* are used.

    *proper precautions being the qualifier here.
    A .45 Colt round would have a 250 grain bullet and 30-40 grains of powder. No idea how much powder is in a blank but it’s not 230 grains and 40 grains is not way lower than a live round because that is what the live round is. If we’re speculating, let’s speculate with real numbers.

    Either way, this death is tragic and unnecessary. A lot of people are going to be dealing with demons for a long time.

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    No doubt Drumpf and all the ammosexual supporters are going to rub this in Baldwin's face forever. The Evangelicals will say it's Baldwin's divine punishment for mocking their chosen one..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    No doubt Drumpf and all the ammosexual supporters are going to rub this in Baldwin's face forever. The Evangelicals will say it's Baldwin's divine punishment for mocking their chosen one..
    Good ole Boebert already did…..

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    He may have been stellar playing the orange shit-gibbon, but this Cheney impression crossed a line.
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    This is a shut case according to some on my face feed. > A false flag combined with deep state Hollywood, wrapped into one.
    I’m so envious of these types who have all the time to independently research the Wuhan flu, vaccine medical data, masks, and child trafficking. Must be great to be an expert and have all of the answers to everything even when it’s not the obvious one.

    My vibes to the victims

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    I made the mistake of reading the comments on one of the stories, and an alarming, though not surprising number of people are calling for the death penalty (in graphic detail). And they're equally certain that he'll be found guilty of murder, or at least manslaughter, yet also think he'll walk because of some vast liberal conspiracy.

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    I'm surprised more mistakes didn't happen in the olden days
    The radical GQP alt reich conspiracy theorists needs to choke on a bag of dicks

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    I'm actually seriously Wonder if someone purposefully snuck a real loaded round in there to prove a point based on the safety concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    I'm actually seriously Wonder if someone purposefully snuck a real loaded round in there to prove a point based on the safety concerns.
    In my armchair, non-expert opinion - It’s more likely that the loaded round was deliberate than a mistake….


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    Oh, I am definitely not an expert.

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    Considering the behind the scenes interactions between the crew and the production company sounds to have been quite contentious, I've been thinking the same thing.

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