Alec Baldwin WTF

[JayPowHound]

When I have fucked up at work people are disappointed at lack of communication.. occasionally it's legit.

Usually it's miscommunication which isn't actually my fault, but sometimes has been.

No one ever has ever died.

If life or death were a part of my job it would be a whole different story..


#justsaying

[XXX-er]

were you shooting a gun or a movie prop ?

couldn't you have been written into the script as coming 1st ?

maybe if you tried a little harder to play the part & wore at least SOME Camo ?

[Conundrum]

I dunno, I came in 48th place out of 53 last Saturday
Not a movie set
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Prepare yourself for lefty jokes.

[Conundrum]

when you get on a plane that’s about to put you 30000 feet up in the air and the pilot makes the announcement that you’re clear for takeoff, do you run up to the cockpit and re-do the pre-flight checklist, or do you just sit back and enjoy the view?

Depends on if I’m paying for a flight on relaxing vacation or part of the crew making the flight arrive at the destination safely.

[XXX-er]

Usually it's miscommunication which isn't actually my fault.

No one ever dies.

#justsaying

I wonder what mrs JPH would say ?

not so far

[MTT]

were you shooting a gun or a movie prop ?

couldn't you have been written into the script as coming 1st ?

maybe if you tried a little harder to play the part & wore at least SOME Camo ?

I have a couple videos but ? I suck

I have not seen any real updates on this. Kinda quiet? I even checked TMZ

I don’t know what to think about the armourer. I suspect her career has come to a screeching halt. Or ?

[Meadow Skipper]

If there is anyone here who quit every time they saw something unsafe, unethical, or illegal at work--every time--then they should be canonized. If that is only what they expect of others they are pontificating hypocrites.

The armorer was a 24 year old woman on her second gig on a movie set. IM (limited) E, movie sets are just full of entitled, pushy assholes. She was likely way inexperienced and I wouldn’t be surprised if she was marginalized as well as either ignored or overridden or both. I hope she has another career path handy.

[seano732]

I even checked TMZ

Quoted for posterity……Get some help dude.

[MTT]

Quoted for posterity……Get some help dude.

There is a New York post story about her last words but I don’t think it’s news.

I think I like this one better. You can see the spent shell mid flight as the gun bucks

All the help I need. A clean relaxing hobby

[Rideski]

Quoted for posterity……Get some help dude.

I’ve never met MTT, likely never will. I think he posts some stupid shit sometimes, not sure if he’s hurting or trolling sometimes. But given your frequently touted career in helping people, your constant baiting of him comes off as super petty, juvenile, and likely harmful. That goes for everyone else baiting him too, but a career in saving lives? Check yourself, dude.

[seano732]

I’ve never met MTT, likely never will. I think he posts some stupid shit sometimes, not sure if he’s hurting or trolling sometimes. But given your frequently touted career in helping people, your constant baiting of him comes off as super petty, juvenile, and likely harmful. That goes for everyone else baiting him too, but a career in saving lives? Check yourself, dude.

Lighten up, Francis.

[Toadman]

The armorer was a 24 year old woman on her second gig on a movie set. IM (limited) E, movie sets are just full of entitled, pushy assholes. She was likely way inexperienced and I wouldn’t be surprised if she was marginalized as well as either ignored or overridden or both. I hope she has another career path handy.

Maybe she can become a life coach to soccer moms who want to dabble in a little gun play.

[Ted Striker]

How's her hat game?

[riser4]

Maybe she can become a life coach to soccer moms who want to dabble in a little gun play.

IIRC, being a life coach didn't end well for Coach in Parvo's stories.

[Meadow Skipper]

The lawyers are getting to work. Here’s an interesting spin on the weapons specialist’s role.

https://www.santafenewmexican.com/ne...7604663c8.html

Two New Mexico attorneys representing Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the armorer working on the Rust film set, appeared on NBC's Today show Wednesday morning to share their theory that the fatal shooting Oct. 21 at Bonanza Creek Ranch was the result of sabotage.

Jason Bowles said Gutierrez-Reed loaded the gun with rounds she had grabbed from an ammunition box labeled "dummy." He proposed a live round — or several live rounds — may have been placed in the box.

"We're assuming somebody put the live round in that box," Bowles said. He is one of two Albuquerque-based attorneys representing Gutierrez-Reed, who was responsible for the prop firearms used on the set, where Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office investigators say actor Alec Baldwin fired a revolver with a live round during a rehearsal in a church building, killing renowned cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, 42, and wounding film director Joel Souza, 48.

The sheriff's office has not yet filed any criminal charges in the shooting but is continuing to investigate the incident to determine how a live round got into the revolver Baldwin was using on the set and why no one noticed the error until after the fatal shot.

"The person who put the live round in the box of dummy rounds had to have the purpose of sabotaging the set — there is no other reason you would do that," Bowles said on Today.

It was the second time this week a New Mexico attorney representing a film worker who may have handled Baldwin's revolver appeared on national television to defend their client.

Assistant director Dave Halls' attorney, Lisa Torraco, told Fox News on Monday he was "not responsible" for the tragedy.

"My client didn’t load the firearm, didn’t point the firearm at anyone and didn’t pull the trigger,” Torraco told reporter Martha MacCallum.

She also suggested Halls was not the person who handed Baldwin the firearm.

Halls and Gutierrez-Reed have come under heavy scrutiny since the incident. Search warrant affidavits written by sheriff's office investigators say Halls had grabbed the gun from a cart of weapons set up by Gutierrez-Reed and gave it to the 63-year-old Hollywood star and producer, and yelled, “Cold gun,” meaning it had no live rounds.

But Sheriff Adan Mendoza said Tuesday there have been "conflicting statements" about what occurred on the set that day.

Investigators are trying to schedule follow-up interviews with key witnesses, the sheriff said — he indicated those include Halls and Gutierrez-Reed — but have had "difficulty."

Robert Gorence, the second attorney representing Gutierrez-Reed, also spoke on Today, noting the revolver was left on a cart unattended from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. the day of the shooting. The ammunition was left in a "prop truck," he added.

Guns on set normally were locked in a safe, Gorence said.

The prop truck "was completely unattended at all times, giving someone access and opportunity," he said. "The tray was outside the church for over two hours after [Gutierrez-Reed] had prepped them for what was going to be an afternoon filming session."

The scenario contradicted what investigators described in a search warrant affidavit. The document said Gutierrez-Reed had told them the firearms were secured in a safe on the prop truck when the crew broke for lunch. She said the ammunition was left unsecured on a cart, according to the affidavit.

The attorneys told Today Gutierrez-Reed at one point showed the gun to Halls and spun the chamber, which was loaded with what she believed to be six dummy rounds.

Halls later took the gun into the church, where Gutierrez-Reed was not present, Gorence said.

Gutierrez-Reed had two roles on the set, he added. She also served as a key props assistant and was only paid "part-time" for her position as head armorer.

"At 11 [a.m.], nothing was going on at that point," Bowles said. "She had the guns prepped. She had them laid out on the cart. They then went to lunch. She had another duty and responsibility as key props assistant, and so she had gone to do that right after she had provided the handgun to Mr. Halls."

[Skistack]

Sounds like her lawyers just accused her of negligence and lying to police.


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[CarlMega]

Sounds like her lawyers just accused her of negligence and lying to police.

Right?

"Investigators are trying to schedule follow-up interviews with key witnesses, the sheriff said — he indicated those include Halls and Gutierrez-Reed — but have had "difficulty."

Robert Gorence, the second attorney representing Gutierrez-Reed, also spoke on Today, noting the revolver was left on a cart unattended from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. the day of the shooting. The ammunition was left in a "prop truck," he added.

Guns on set normally were locked in a safe, Gorence said.

The prop truck "was completely unattended at all times, giving someone access and opportunity," he said. "The tray was outside the church for over two hours after [Gutierrez-Reed] had prepped them for what was going to be an afternoon filming session.""

Basically, I failed to control custody and access to firearms in the established 'normal' practices of my profession and role. FAIL.

To me, this reads more like - "oh shit, I know our shit n giggles plinking got someone killed so I'm going to sacrifice my armorer role fail in hopes of casting doubt about how a live round made it onto set - "maybe someone else did it?""

[m2711c]

All you surmise may be true. However that does not let off the Assistant Director. Her job was to show him that the gun was clear and his job was to declare that the gun was clear. Or one or both of them did not complete the two-step process needed to declare the gun “cold”.

[CarlMega]

All you surmise may be true. However that does not let off the Assistant Director. Her job was to show him that the gun was clear and his job was to declare that the gun was clear. Or one or both of them did not complete the two-step process needed to declare the gun “cold”.

No argument. Like most horrible things - several failures needed to align.

[XXX-er]

" we are assuming " means nothing, its just some random FUD from a lawyer in a polyester suit

a random live round in a box ( box or 50 ? ) of ammo means nobody knows if it would have gone in a gun on this set even in this movie,

it could have even ended up in a gun that killed somebody everyone hates

in fact a live round could have ended up in the box from another movie

which is why this armorer was suposed to check

[XXX-er]

No argument. Like most horrible things - several failures needed to align.

AKA the swiss cheese theory, blame those fucking swiss

[JayPowHound]

AKA the swiss cheese theory, blame those fucking swiss

Google imaged "fucking swiss" in hopes of
finding a meme to add to to this thread.

Results were... not as expected.

[XXX-er]

look in the lunch thread

[SumJongGuy]

look in the lunch thread

Now you're getting somewhere. That must be where the gun got a real bullet loaded.. It was left on the cart during lunch right??

[XXX-er]

exactly, and it managed to fall thru the holes in several slices of swiss cheese

Which is why I'm a Gruyere person myself