Alec Baldwin WTF

[californiagrown]

What could go wrong?

Well, one thing comes to mind.

[TNKen]

That says it fired because shit was broken, not because the safety mechanisms failed or that the gun was working normally. It went off because the components are/were broken.

No, the FBI cocked the gun, then took something and banged into the cocked hammer trying to get the mechanism to fail. In doing so, they broke two internal parts in the firearm which, in turn, allowed the hammer to fall striking the firing pin. The report was very clear that at no time did the gun drop the hammer without the trigger being pulled.

This was not an old worn out gun from the late 1800's.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/982830090

If you want to "fan" the gun, you hold the trigger down and use the palm of your opposing hand to cock and slid off the hammer. Probably something similar to what Baldwin did.

And yes, the real culprit to some degree is allowing live ammo near a prop firearm.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

To all degree.

Once again, AB is a giant gaping asshole but this isn't on him.

[californiagrown]

To all degree.

Once again, AB is a giant gaping asshole but this isn't on him.

If an actor wasnt tied onto belay properly by the movie's ropes expert, and then falls to their death after being pushed off a cliff/building during a scripted take by AB, would people still blame AB for the death? Or is this really just shitheads gleeful about their two favorite things combining into one conversation topic: Muh Guns and Elite Libtard Tears.

[bobz]

Isnt the story that the cast was using set guns to go plinking in the desert during their free time?

Irresponsible if true, but I don't think the "plinking" story was ever confirmed. In any case, my hunch is that they had a gun-handler there who was a gun lover first and a film set professional second. And as far as they're concerned, ammo is part of the kit. I mean, seriously, if you're thinking of this as a dramatic arts job, don't bring bullets to work, period, should be a no-brainer. (Setting aside, that the gun should be inspected before each usage on the set, which shouldn't be hard.)

[jono]

No, the FBI cocked the gun, then took something and banged into the cocked hammer trying to get the mechanism to fail. In doing so, they broke two internal parts in the firearm which, in turn, allowed the hammer to fall striking the firing pin. The report was very clear that at no time did the gun drop the hammer without the trigger being pulled.

I misread the report initially and thought they were trying to reproduce the firing without a trigger pull as Baldwin claims. Which would be most likely by teasing the hammer near a stop position, not dropping the gun etc. On second look I see that they never attempted to reproduce that at all, so the report offers no evidence either way.

Now that the gun is broken there's no way to check it to see if (or how easily) it could fire without a trigger pull. As the report notes, they can't always reproduce that anyway, but it would certainly be different now. So reasonable doubt became automatic for Baldwin.

All that aside, yes: bullets.

[dookeyXXX]

The movie in question has resumed shooting (film, that is)

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/r...ts-1235594621/

[sb]

RUN AWAY!

[riser4]

The movie in question has resumed shooting (film, that is)

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/r...ts-1235594621/

Bahaha

[garyfromterrace]

The movie in question has resumed shooting (film, that is)

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/r...ts-1235594621/

Ha!

[Meadow Skipper]

The court case is not going well.
Prosecution costs climbing as ‘Rust’ cases crumble

New Mexico law system could fuck up a wet dream.

[SumJongGuy]

Hunter Biden hold my beer?


'Rust' weapons expert passed drugs to someone else on day of fatal shooting, prosecutors say

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Drugs and people hungover on set? Sounds like every gig I worked on back in the day. Amateur clowns couldn't produce a professional product under those conditions...

[riser4]

I need to go produce a movement.

[Meadow Skipper]

Update:
Prosecutors seek to recharge Alec Baldwin in the 'Rust' movie shooting

"After [an] extensive investigation over the past several months, additional facts have come to light that we believe show Mr. Baldwin has criminal culpability in the death of Halyna Hutchins and the shooting of Joel Souza," read a statement by attorneys Kari T. Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis. "We believe the appropriate course of action is to permit a panel of New Mexico citizens to determine from here whether Mr. Baldwin should be held over for criminal trial."

[Meadow Skipper]

The Rust armorer FAFO’d
‘Rust’ Armorer Convicted of Manslaughter in Alec Baldwin Shooting

Baldwin still on the hook in NM for involuntary manslaughter charges.

[Beaver]

I need to go produce a movement.

TMI

[MakersTeleMark]

WTF?

Ms. Gutierrez-Reed passed her a baggie of cocaine and asked if the crew member could hold on to it for her.

[Meadow Skipper]

Baldwin trial starts in NM.
https://www.santafenewmexican.com/ne...c3a09f208.html

[exsparky]

Who's betting he can pull off an OJ and walk on the criminal charge?
What is the over under? Manslaughter?

[mcski]

It’s absurd he’s charged at all. He’s an actor. It’s not their job to know anything about guns. That’s the armorers job. An argument could be made for some culpability as a producer, but they dropped that angle. It’s crazy this went to trial at all so there’s no rational to the odds

[stealurface831]

if he wasn't an asshole, he'd be fine.

[Danno]

It’s absurd he’s charged at all. He’s an actor. It’s not their job to know anything about guns. That’s the armorers job. An argument could be made for some culpability as a producer, but they dropped that angle. It’s crazy this went to trial at all so there’s no rational to the odds

100%

[warthog]

It’s absurd he’s charged at all. He’s an actor. It’s not their job to know anything about guns. That’s the armorers job. An argument could be made for some culpability as a producer, but they dropped that angle. It’s crazy this went to trial at all so there’s no rational to the odds

Ahem- NEW Mexico

[leroy jenkins]

It’s absurd he’s charged at all. He’s an actor. It’s not their job to know anything about guns. That’s the armorers job. An argument could be made for some culpability as a producer, but they dropped that angle. It’s crazy this went to trial at all so there’s no rational to the odds

If you have a gun in your hand, it's your job to be safe with that gun.

You'd have some sort of point if this was Brandon Lee, an accident that happened during actually filming a scene in which the gun was supposed tobe pointed at the actor, and have it's trigger pulled, but a fuckup with dummy rounds and blank rounds created danger.

Baldwin, wasn't actively shooting a scene, the script didn't have him pointing this gun at this woman in this scene. She wasn't an actor.

Hollywood gun rules are different than normal people gun rules, but even by hollywood rules, there is no reason to point a gun at someone who isn't an actor, while the cameras aren't running.