Alec Baldwin WTF

[Danno]

IKR?

[Cono Este]

Is it just me or does everyone who thinks Baldwin should go to prison also believe Rittenhouse deserves a fucking medal?

I don’t think he deserves jail, I think he owes that woman’s family alot of $$$ in a civil trial. A lot.

[bennymac]

people are quick to judge the blue blood Manhattanite who dared made fun of the god emperor

[Danno]

I don’t think he deserves jail, I think he owes that woman’s family alot of $$$ in a civil trial. A lot.

based on what?

[Cono Este]

based on what?

Based on the dead mother and his large bank account.

I bet he offered already, I like the guy. But he seems to have possed off the family not owning up to everything.

[Cono Este]

Danno

This is my take. If he was handled a real gun by mistake , vs a rubber gun/non working prop, I’d say zero liability.

But they all knew these were not toys. 100%.

Anytime you pull the trigger it’s on you.

[Danno]

Danno

This is my take. If he was handled a real gun by mistake , vs a rubber gun/non working prop, I’d say zero liability.

But they all knew these were not toys. 100%.

Anytime you pull the trigger it’s on you.

well thank you for providing your well reasoned legal analysis on the legal standards and burdens of proof. Based on what I know, he would not be liable for the same reason the prosecution dropped the charges. Because his actions were industry standard and thus not negligent (again, based on what I know). Live bullets were not supposed to even be on set, and there were people employed for the express purpose of making sure that the actor doesn't have to be responsible for gun safety, because they are paid to do that. And that person or those people told him that the gun was unloaded. I don't see how you prove negligence if those are the facts.

[Meadow Skipper]

With all apologies to our Land of Enchantment mags, New Mexico is such a continual shitshow.

Well yeah, we know that. We’re just grateful to be located between Colorado and Texas because they make us look better in comparison.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Well yeah, we know that. We’re just grateful to be located between Colorado and Texas because they make us look better in comparison.

Montana used to have Idaho and N Dakota for that same purpose, but not so much anymore.

[Cono Este]

well thank you for providing your well reasoned legal analysis on the legal standards and burdens of proof. Based on what I know, he would not be liable for the same reason the prosecution dropped the charges. Because his actions were industry standard and thus not negligent (again, based on what I know). Live bullets were not supposed to even be on set, and there were people employed for the express purpose of making sure that the actor doesn't have to be responsible for gun safety, because they are paid to do that. And that person or those people told him that the gun was unloaded. I don't see how you prove negligence if those are the facts.

Hey man, I was a Junior Statesmen. And Harry is an insurance expert, we’re all experts.

[stealurface831]

...I like the guy...

you might be the only one. i don't really have an opinion on the situation at hand but have always found him to be a flaming fucking douchenozzle.

[gaijin]

I don't have an opinion on this but I'm genuinely lost and can't understand how someone would hand me a gun, tell me it's unloaded, and me still not have the ability to not check myself. There's no way I could resist checking.

But I grew up with guns. So maybe that's it.

[Cono Este]

you might be the only one. i don't really have an opinion on the situation at hand but have always found him to be a flaming fucking douchenozzle.

Hunt for red October.

That’s enough. And I actually like some of the environmental stands he’s taken.

[XXX-er]

I don't have an opinion on this but I'm genuinely lost and can't understand how someone would hand me a gun, tell me it's unloaded, and me still not have the ability to not check myself. There's no way I could resist checking.

But I grew up with guns. So maybe that's it.

how many movies have you made ?

you weren't suposed to point a gun at people either

unless of course you are the PO-lice or some random person knocks on your door or or

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Last thing you want is an actor fiddling around with a hand prop. You give it to them, they film the scene, you take it away from them.

When the hand prop is a gun, procedure is a little different as described way up in thread, but the principle is the same - don't ever let actors fuck around with shit.

Yes I've worked on movies and TV shows with guns involved.

[Timberridge]

Nobody is to blame, it's all just guns just doin' gun stuff.

[I Skied Bandini Mountain]

Nobody is to blame, it's all just guns just doin' gun stuff.

Oh, someone is to blame and she's still up on charges. She's just not someone famous who made fun of a cult leader.

[SumJongGuy]

Nobody has ever seen a Dirty Harry movie? They did not CGI those guns in Clint's hand or other people he was aiming them at..

[Danno]

I don't have an opinion on this but I'm genuinely lost and can't understand how someone would hand me a gun, tell me it's unloaded, and me still not have the ability to not check myself. There's no way I could resist checking.

But I grew up with guns. So maybe that's it.

Except that person who hands you the gun and tells you it's unloaded? That's literally their job, they are being paid to do that very thing. And you may have grown up with guns, but they're paid to do that job precisely because not everyone is expected to have grown up with guns.

[subtle plague]

Who wants to grow up with guns?
Hot stripper mom....ok. I get that.
Weed Smoking hippy dad. Ok yeah...al right.
But guns?

[CarlMega]

Nobody has ever seen a Dirty Harry movie? They did not CGI those guns in Clint's hand or other people he was aiming them at..

The whole context of the situation is to simulate doing things with a 'gun' that are inherently dangerous and unsafe. Applying range customs and practices to this setting is absurd. This ain't plinking cans in the back woods.

[californiagrown]

Last thing you want is an actor fiddling around with a hand prop. You give it to them, they film the scene, you take it away from them.

When the hand prop is a gun, procedure is a little different as described way up in thread, but the principle is the same - don't ever let actors fuck around with shit.

Yes I've worked on movies and TV shows with guns involved.

Yep. When a rental shop employee gives your cousin from Chicago his skis and boots for a day on the slopes, it is not expected of the the cousin to check the DINs and forward pressure are all set correctly. You trust the fucking expert getting paid to do their job... your jerry cousin will only make the situation worse 999/1000 if he starts messing around with stuff.


I just do not fundamentally understand why the actor is getting blamed for a prop malfunction?

[bennymac]

Yep. When a rental shop employee gives your cousin from Chicago his skis and boots for a day on the slopes, it is not expected of the the cousin to check the DINs and forward pressure are all set correctly. You trust the fucking expert getting paid to do their job... your jerry cousin will only make the situation worse 999/1000 if he starts messing around with stuff.


I just do not fundamentally understand why the actor is getting blamed for a prop malfunction?

Rich Manhattan resident who made fun of dear leader

[PNWbrit]

Rich Manhattan resident who made fun of dear leader

Special prosecutor who thought it would help her election chances.

[bennymac]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/gun-fatal-...ry?id=98760315

The special prosecutors' decision to drop the charges against Alec Baldwin over the fatal on-set "Rust" shooting was made, at least in part, because investigators found the gun that fired to be mechanically improper, a source familiar with the matter told ABC News.

Investigators effectively conducted an autopsy of the Colt .45 revolver and found that there were worn joints and that the trigger control was not functioning properly, according to the source.

It became evident to prosecutors the gun could fire without pressure on the trigger, according to the source.

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AB did say he never pulled the trigger - which a lot of “experts” then said wasn’t possible.