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11-16-2021, 01:49 PM #1201
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11-16-2021, 01:54 PM #1202Registered User
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It wouldn't matter cuz I didnt go, I got my Gig by hanging out with the service mangers kid and fixing his hot mustang and I was made at 18 but enough about all the shit I did
OK it sounds like a tougher go to make it nowdays but i still wana know what kids are contributing to their education nowdays?
we all did whatever to get along, made decsisions good, or bad, had divorces or 2, lost jobs went left shoulda gone right, got thru whatever to make it,
So where i'm going with it IS if you give it all to a kid what has he learned and is he allowed to fail ?Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-16-2021, 02:03 PM #1203
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11-16-2021, 02:07 PM #1204Hucked to flat once
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The three four year public universities here hover around $8,000/yr in-state tuition. Full-time summer work, part-time school year work, scholarships and grants, and modest student loans will get you a four year degree from a university most employers here will respect. That's without any parental subsidy and if one is at all able to live on the cheap. GFY.
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11-16-2021, 02:11 PM #1205
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11-16-2021, 02:12 PM #1206
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11-16-2021, 02:16 PM #1207Registered User
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Says $8k for the year in terms of tuition and fees for instate... https://www.collegetuitioncompare.co...ate%20students. And another 12K for living expenses.
Get $5k in scholarships (fairly normal), work a part time gig for another $10k/year and you come out of school with $20k in debt. Not that tough to pay off $20k in student loan debt.
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11-16-2021, 02:18 PM #1208
Actually it says $22,254 total cost, dumbfuck.
https://www.uidaho.edu/financial-aid/cost-of-attendance
and they offer out of state incentives to attract students.
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11-16-2021, 02:24 PM #1209Registered User
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Yep, i changed my post when i realized you were talking about total cost. the cost you posted assumes school housing and meal plan... both of which are much more expensive the private housing and cooking for oneself like most UofI students do. But yeah, $20k/year shouldnt leave a graduate with anything resembling insurmountable debt if they arent completely blowing it at life.
And point still stands, who in their right mind from out of state wants to go to Moscow, ID? Jsut go 8 miles west and everything is a better version of U of I.
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11-16-2021, 02:25 PM #1210Banned
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11-16-2021, 02:28 PM #1211
So nobody's The Great Resignation quitting a full time job to live the college life unless their parents are doing well and setting aside at least half the total cost, Our college kid's currently a shift manager at Jack in the Box. He's doing that for his party money and non cafeteria food. I think he's working about 20- 25 hours a week, Made all As on his math and engineering mid terms so he's got it dialed in pretty well now. Last year he almost lost his financial aid, failed the math class before he discovered the Math Lab I kept telling him to go check out.. Glad he's not checking out the Meth Lab..
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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11-16-2021, 02:32 PM #1212Registered User
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The Great Resignation ‘21
Don’t entirely agree. Until a degree is valued on an even playing field from a school like Syracuse vs my local community college it’s not really fair to say someone should/could have just went with the school with a $3000 semester tuition vs a $36000 tuition.
IE getting a degree from the more expensive school will probably give someone an edge over someone who went to a lesser known, less expensive school.
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11-16-2021, 02:51 PM #1214
Let’s, for a minute, assume that freeing up all the funds gobbled up by the 6.8% interest rate and exorbitant tuition boosted the economy so greatly that you personally would see a significant net benefit in your wages and/or investments. Would you stick to your - well I had to work hard for it so it’s not fair that someone else doesn’t have to - position?
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11-16-2021, 02:53 PM #1215
Most would piss and moan Not Fair!!. Human Nature.
A few people feel the rain. Most people just get wet.
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11-16-2021, 03:01 PM #1216Hucked to flat once
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$7.25 is minimum. No one is making minimum here. McDonalds is starting at $14/hr and offering to work around college schedules. If you're making $10.75, it's because you're too good to work at McDonalds. I know the owner of the franchises here. He'll hire college students if he can get them to apply. And $22k is all in for school, a place to live, food, and estimated transportation and personal expenses.
Having gone to UI and BSU in 2000, I'll tell you. Minimum wage was $7.25. I usually made $8-9 at part-time jobs during the school year. $10-15 in the summer in a metal shop, farming, and construction working full-time during the summer and saved that living with my parents during those months. Tuition was about $2,500 a year. I had decent scholarships which picked up all school fees and stipend for some room and board. My parents' income qualified me for a few grants and I did take a few student loans out over the years which I paid back by 30.
Now, kids are probably making $10-15/hr and tuition is $8,000k. My off-campus rent with roommates averaged $300-400 per month. I've been told it's probably closer to $6-700 now which tracks with inflation. I ran some quick numbers and these schools are increasing at about double inflation like you said for tuition. Seems like rent and other costs are tracking with inflation. I'm not saying getting a four year degree now without parent assistance is easy but it's not impossible here unless you're too good to go to a public school. As I walk around the office here where the low end salary is about $45k and the top guy in the office is $450k. Diplomas from UI, BSU, UNLV, Fresno St, ISU and one University of Phoenix on the walls.
Sure, it's a little tougher here but not as hard as people make it out to be. Plus, BSU is a commuter campus so it's possible to take a lot of night classes and work during the day. I did that about half of my college stint and kids are still doing it today.
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11-16-2021, 03:03 PM #1217
Lol, I went to SU for free, you can see what that place did for my math!
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11-16-2021, 03:08 PM #1218
Since 1970 the cost of a 4 yr public college has gone up 3.5x faster than inflation.
https://www.yahoo.com/now/average-co...122000732.html
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11-16-2021, 03:17 PM #1219Registered User
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11-16-2021, 03:26 PM #1220Registered User
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It is harder. No doubt about it. How much harder is up for debate IMO.
How much of college expenses did parents pay (on average) in 2000, vs how much they contribute in 2021? Arent college savings accounts pretty common nowadays for parents compared to parents of yesteryear? Are scholarship amounts increasing as well?
IDK, it can be hard to have empathy for college kids who are pretty obviously at college only for the social side, who dont work, arent pursuing a carreer they are passionate about or will make them good money, (they just picked an easy major), arent actively searching out scholarships etc. i never had that free, easy ride- i had to work hard and sacrifice to make college work... so it rubs me the wrong way to hear kids and peers whine about college loans without having worked and sacrificed.
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11-16-2021, 03:32 PM #1221
UNC for $3,500 is fantasyland for the ~20% of applicants who get in.
https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator...99120#expenses
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11-16-2021, 03:54 PM #1222
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11-16-2021, 03:55 PM #1223
Well we were looking at both UNC and Oklahoma in 2020. Out of state everything at OU was a little under IN STATE everything at UNC. But you have to go to school in Oklahoma hahaha. Seriously though, Norman is a little blue dot there surrounded by 'Murika. I think the financial aid and grants were a little better at Oklahoma. Oklahoma is also easier to get accepted at..
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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