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  1. #1526
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Went to three supermarkets and completely struck out! Guess it’s just not the season yet, my guy. I’m as steamed as some broccoli.
    Suppose I should just be patient and wait for it to come in season.

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    22 Blue - Looking ahead to the New (aka Fuck Summer (aka Tahoe Thread))

    Quote Originally Posted by deeds View Post
    Suppose I should just be patient and wait for it to come in season.
    I was just goofing. Freezing temps overnight and mid 40’s during the days all next week. Should be good to go on the right aspects. Probably just a little later in the day since it’s January.
    I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.

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    Did you guys skin back up and hit Sally Alley too? We saw some folks coming down from Chair 4 at about 2 PM. Extreme Traverse on the Saddle was actually fun, as was this one strip of windbuff under All the Way on the Wall. And Buckboard at 60 mph....always.

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    22 Blue - Looking ahead to the New (aka Fuck Summer (aka Tahoe Thread))

    Note that an annual limit on stays was not in the reccomended actions, but the comment period is still open so you can try to prevent full-time hotels from running in residential neighborhoods.



    From Town of Truckee:
    COMMUNITY SURVEY OUT NOW!
    The Town of Truckee is considering updates to our community's Short-Term Rental (STR) Ordinance, and we want to hear from you! The updates that are being considered include the following three recommendations to the ordinance:
    �� A cap on the number of STR registration certificates issued
    �� The creation of a waiting period after a property sells before they can be eligible as an STR
    �� The phasing out of STRs in multi-family housing units
    The Town of Truckee formed a stakeholder advisory committee to study STR management options and provide recommendations. The committee is made up of a broad range of stakeholders and met over a three month period to consider this complex issue. It was hoped that proactively managing the STR registration program would create a tool to help maintain the supply of housing that is affordable to the regional workforce. They considered data from the makeup and use of the current STR inventory in Truckee, tools used in similar destination communities, as well as findings from a literature review that looked at several academic studies on these potential tools and their impacts on the housing market. It is from this process that the three recommendations above were made.
    These are recommendations that are currently being considered, not yet adopted. We are seeking public input and community involvement in this important decision. The survey will be available from January 14, 2022 until January 24, 2022. The information received will then be presented to the Truckee Town Council at the February 8, 2022 Truckee Town Council meeting.
    The survey is available below:
    https://www.townoftruckee.com/govern...mmunity-survey
    Even sometimes when I'm snowboarding I'm like "Hey I'm snowboarding! Because I suck dick, I'm snowboarding!" --Dan Savage

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    22 Blue - Looking ahead to the New (aka Fuck Summer (aka Tahoe Thread))

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    My comment. Why the fuck not? It’s so obvious that limiting nights would be the most effective measure. This whole thing feels like a sham.
    I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.

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    Yeah, I'm kinda confused why they might recommend phasing out STRs in multi family units but not houses in residential neighborhoods. Also curious who the "stakeholders" are that provided input 🤔. If they want to actually do something about the problem, quit pussyfooting around and do something. Ban it outright aside from primary residences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
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    My comment. Why the fuck not? It’s so obvious that limiting nights would be the most effective measure. This whole thing feels like a sham.
    It sounds like they hope limiting the overall number of STRs will reduce complaints and friction enough that they don't have to impose a stay limit. Another obvious solution is to limit STRs to certain areas like SLT did. But it's always like this with business and real estate vs people trying to live somewhere. We need more people to demand annual limits and no-STR zones. Comments needed!
    Even sometimes when I'm snowboarding I'm like "Hey I'm snowboarding! Because I suck dick, I'm snowboarding!" --Dan Savage

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmm...pow! View Post
    Yeah, I'm kinda confused why they might recommend phasing out STRs in multi family units but not houses in residential neighborhoods. Also curious who the "stakeholders" are that provided input 🤔. If they want to actually do something about the problem, quit pussyfooting around and do something. Ban it outright aside from primary residences.
    Security of shared interior spaces in multi units is different than SFHs for one. Also, mfhus tend to be primary rentals, which are then being sublet as strs. Not always, but more likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmm...pow! View Post
    Yeah, I'm kinda confused why they might recommend phasing out STRs in multi family units but not houses in residential neighborhoods. Also curious who the "stakeholders" are that provided input ��. If they want to actually do something about the problem, quit pussyfooting around and do something. Ban it outright aside from primary residences.
    You'll likely just end up with a bunch of empty houses and really expensive hotel rooms (and maybe that's okay?). I don't think there's anything wrong with second homeowners renting it out here or there (say, sub 30 nights per year), but the full time hotel-in-a-neighborhood thing needs to stop for sure and then evaluate from there.
    I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.

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    For sure there will be lots of empty homes, there already is. But the full time hoteliers will have no reason to keep those homes, and the people that were only able to justify the expense of a house they use a few times a year by renting it out the rest of the time would be forced to sell, too. More homes on the market, whatever the number, is a win in my book. I don't see the point in proclaiming something is a problem, and then allowing that problem to continue, just in smaller numbers, and mostly benefitting people that don't live here.

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    22 Blue - Looking ahead to the New (aka Fuck Summer (aka Tahoe Thread))

    Quote Originally Posted by mmmm...pow! View Post
    For sure there will be lots of empty homes, there already is. But the full time hoteliers will have no reason to keep those homes, and the people that were only able to justify the expense of a house they use a few times a year by renting it out the rest of the time would be forced to sell, too. More homes on the market, whatever the number, is a win in my book. I don't see the point in proclaiming something is a problem, and then allowing that problem to continue, just in smaller numbers, and mostly benefitting people that don't live here.
    Exactly this.

    We sure seemed to have lower prices and more plentiful long-term rentals before the invasion of STRs. That's one data point.
    Even sometimes when I'm snowboarding I'm like "Hey I'm snowboarding! Because I suck dick, I'm snowboarding!" --Dan Savage

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    I completely agree with needing a limit on the number of nights being critical. I stated that on the survey. I also wanted to know that since my neighbor can run a hotel in a residential neighborhood, how come I can't turn my house into a drive thru restaurant? "Its mah proppurty an' I'll do whatti want"
    Fuck those fucking motherfuckers!

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    January corn, I'll take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gone2alpine View Post
    I completely agree with needing a limit on the number of nights being critical. I stated that on the survey. I also wanted to know that since my neighbor can run a hotel in a residential neighborhood, how come I can't turn my house into a drive thru restaurant? "Its mah proppurty an' I'll do whatti want"
    Might as well think big, like a strip bar/casino. There should probably be at least one on every block to accommodate the hotel guests.
    “I really lack the words to compliment myself today.” - Alberto Tomba

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    Quote Originally Posted by gone2alpine View Post
    I completely agree with needing a limit on the number of nights being critical. I stated that on the survey. I also wanted to know that since my neighbor can run a hotel in a residential neighborhood, how come I can't turn my house into a drive thru restaurant? "Its mah proppurty an' I'll do whatti want"
    If you really want a flip-out reaction that proves your point, try setting up a homeless shelter. Step back and watch the fireworks!
    Even sometimes when I'm snowboarding I'm like "Hey I'm snowboarding! Because I suck dick, I'm snowboarding!" --Dan Savage

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    I was just goofing. Freezing temps overnight and mid 40’s during the days all next week. Should be good to go on the right aspects. Probably just a little later in the day since it’s January.
    It gave me a good laugh, no worries

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsupdoc View Post
    January corn, I'll take it.

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    Hell yeah

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    Nice share Doc
    Own your fail. ~Jer~

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
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    My comment. Why the fuck not? It’s so obvious that limiting nights would be the most effective measure. This whole thing feels like a sham.
    Quote Originally Posted by gone2alpine View Post
    I completely agree with needing a limit on the number of nights being critical. I stated that on the survey. I also wanted to know that since my neighbor can run a hotel in a residential neighborhood, how come I can't turn my house into a drive thru restaurant? "Its mah proppurty an' I'll do whatti want"
    That was my comment as well--limit the total nights (not the restaurant). Absentee landlord STR's are an abomination. Completely antithetical to the original intent of the concept.

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    Nice one doc! Way to get off the beaten path+++

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    Saturday ski off Jake's. The skin/boot up nearly had some in our party ready to turn around, but the ski down was worth it. Such a killer line

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    Lost track of how many days in a row I’ve skied good corn, been a great Juneuary

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    Another Day in Juneuary
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtran10 View Post
    Saturday ski off Jake's. The skin/boot up nearly had some in our party ready to turn around, but the ski down was worth it. Such a killer line

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    You got to see it and ski it
    Well done
    Own your fail. ~Jer~

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    Noon Goon squad checking in -

    Jan gives for long windows, but 3pm is a bit on the crusty side

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