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10-14-2021, 08:49 AM #126
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10-14-2021, 08:50 AM #127
Let's not forget that that company lost it's cash cow, Park City, to a clerical error.
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10-14-2021, 08:58 AM #128powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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10-14-2021, 09:02 AM #129
You make it sound like the just signed the business over to Vail.
Vail paid POWDR $182.5M for Park City.
Many industry analyst say that the price tag that Vail paid was at least 20-25% greater than the market value.
If POWDR had put Park City up for sale, the top dollar they would have only gotten $137M for it.
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10-14-2021, 09:08 AM #130powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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10-14-2021, 09:10 AM #131powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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10-14-2021, 09:19 AM #132
Dude, they were paying jack for the land lease before Betty in legal or where ever fucked up and didnt mark the calendar. Why would they sell it? Sure Vail overpaid, I suppose, but, have you been to Park city lately? It's not hurting for customers, and fits quite nicely into their scheme of world domination. Powdr would be getting most of those crowds for capital invested years ago. World class fuckup.
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10-14-2021, 09:31 AM #133
I don't know why, but I don't have nearly as much of a problem with this version of the idea. Get 3 buddies, go in on whatever this thing costs (thus lowering per person cost to be more attainable). Fill a chair every time meaning lift gets more efficient.
One thing I think many are underestimating is the shaming that is going to occur when a VIP dingus adds on as a single on a chair full of pleabs. I know I won't have very nice things to say.
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10-14-2021, 09:35 AM #134"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
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10-14-2021, 09:41 AM #135
You pulled that part from some media piece right? Because the situation was way more complicated than that. The MtB board split 4-3 on whether to sell out. About 2/3 of the shareholders jumped on Powdr’s offer right out of the chute. And $28 - or even $34 - million was chump change in 2001 - Randy Pape could have paid that out of petty cash and the change in his office’s couch cushions. He just didn’t want to…
I’ll give you the clueless part (forgets to renew a $50k lease, is forced into selling PCMR to Vail) but John Cumming is not Mormon, nor has he been CEO of Powdr for the last three years.
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10-14-2021, 09:46 AM #136Registered User
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10-14-2021, 09:46 AM #137Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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10-14-2021, 09:48 AM #138
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Fast Tracks pass
Yea, that’s a pretty simple breakdown for any frat boi marketing major to figure out - meaning, yea, they definitely crunched numbers and will make more money doing it. The moves made by any large corp or private company are always driven by $$$ or at least have it in mind. Perfect example is Patagucci’s pullout from JHMR, when conveniently, an REI is set to open in town. Ha, like that wasn’t weighed in that decision making process. But I digress
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10-14-2021, 09:53 AM #140
Yeah, I get it. The funny thing is, around Tahoe the Vail and Alterra resorts don't have fast track passes (Northstar used to), but the locally owned non-corporate Sugar Bowl and Sierra at Tahoe have done it for years. Those places don't get nearly as crowded so it isn't a big deal. I barely ever see anyone use it at SB.
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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10-14-2021, 09:59 AM #141
The Founders Pass is a much different animal, though:
FOUNDERS PASS PROGRAM
A sell-out since its introduction in 1998, the Founders Pass is the primary fundraising vehicle for the Whistler Blackcomb Foundation. The Foundation raises $325,000 each year for Sea to Sky community charities through the sale of 50 annual VIP ski passes, generously donated by Whistler Blackcomb/Vail Resorts Epic Promise.
Also noticed the AP has picked up this story:
https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle...caa884e5cacb71
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10-14-2021, 10:00 AM #142
Depends on the National Forest. There is almost no trail building going on in the National Forest in Washington (but that's another subject).
Somewhere along the line skiing got lumped in with golf and real estate development. That is fine when the ski area is on private land. But back when society decided it was a good use of the public's land to let companies develop ski areas on them, I doubt they had any idea what resort skiing would become today. Other sports on National Forests are simple. Mountain bikers, hikers, equestrians park in dirt parking lots and take their shits in outhouses. They are (mostly) self-sufficient and competent. Contrast skiing on National Forests, where any wealthy fucktard can have a pampered, shopping mall, experience.
This is a particular sore spot for those in the PNW, whose ski areas lack base area developments like in the Rockies. Our ski areas (used) to have shitty lifts, stinky lodges, and a more rustic vibe. Now, most are owned by corporate behemoths headquartered in the Rockies who are trying to change our ski areas into Vail.
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10-14-2021, 10:02 AM #143
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10-14-2021, 10:38 AM #144Registered User
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Right, this isn't the same. This is day passes that anybody can buy, so the influx of ikon holders can just decide to buy one of these passes and skip the insane line that exist specifically because of all the crazy ikon people coming in. And at snowbird, it's effectively on EVERY chair, all day.
I don't care about "black" passes because those are only available to people who buy season passes or own property, cost thousands per year, and that's a small group who honestly kinda deserve the special treatment. This is specifically marketed at any dipshit tourist, and it will be available on effectively every single chair. Instead of dealing with the crowds like they need to (by maybe controlling the number of people allowed up LCC) they are just encouraging more skiers to come and then letting people skip the line on a day by day basis.
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10-14-2021, 10:48 AM #145
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10-14-2021, 11:15 AM #146
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10-14-2021, 11:32 AM #147
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10-14-2021, 11:39 AM #148
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10-14-2021, 11:59 AM #149
One can only imagine that a few very wealthy folks who ski at these mountains sent in some emails to the suggestion box;
"Hey, you guys ever think about adding some thing like a 'fast pass' for folks who want to enhance their experience with family and friends be being able to cut in line? Would be willing to pay maybe $50-$100/day, especially on a powder WE. That would be great if you could implement that! Thanks!!!""We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch
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10-14-2021, 12:19 PM #150Registered User
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Are you a Snowbird local? If so has this happened to you: When it's a busy pow morning and you have been waiting an hour or so for the tram, and you are just going to squeeze into the next one - along comes 4-5 black passers who skip the line and put you on the next tram instead - which is about a 15-20 minute wait more wait until you get up now. It fucking sucks.
Or has this happened to you: It's a busy pow morning and you have been waiting an hour or so for the tram, and you DO make the first tram, and only limited terrain is open: but all the black passers have been making many laps before the resort opens on that limited terrain.
I don't lose sleep over this, but it's annoying as hell.
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