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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by funkendrenchman View Post
    Getting foamed up at Bootech next week. I'll report back. I'm coming from a Sidas PU foam liner in a Hawx Ultra.
    Depending on how you like your Sidas liner, you can go one of two ways: if you like that rock-solid, super tight fit then ask your boot-fitter to pump in more foam than the recommended amount. If you didn't like how your Sidas fit (meaning: it was too tight, you got too cold, etc.) then go with the recommended amount of foam. Looking forward to hearing how it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onenerdykid View Post
    What size is your foot? Remember that a boot is only "100mm" on its reference size, in this case 26/26.5. As you go up in size, the last gets wider by 2mm and as you go down in size, the last gets narrower by 2mm. So in size 28/28.5, a Hawx Prime is 104mm wide. Just something to be aware of.

    Also, it's very easy to gain width in a boot, so I am not too worried about that for you. But, like you said, your instep is quite high and this is often the tricky limiting factor. Without being able to see your foot in a boot this is a total guess, but I think this would be quite possible given our High Volume tongue option. I've fit some fairly monster feet in a Prime with the Mimic Professional liner & HV tongue combo.
    Size =25.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jongle View Post
    FWIW, my feet are 106mm wide with narrow heels and a size 24.5 Hawx Prime fits me will with very minor work (spot heating the forefoot area of the shell with a heat gun while wearing the boots).
    I mentioned that I had to use Sportmachine as my boot, since Speedmachines killed me in the instep area even without buckling down, and that's the next volume size up in Nordica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bite Me View Post
    Size =25.5
    Yeah, now this is getting trickier. It might work to put the Hawx version into your Sportmachine, but my fear is that it won't fit correctly in the bottom of the shell since it fits a 98mm boot too. Without having done the experiment, I would unfortunately say it most likely won't work that well for you.

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    Matt, what's the bottom of the liner like? Standard strobel sole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX View Post
    Matt, what's the bottom of the liner like? Standard strobel sole?
    Standard strobel sole, just like our other liners.

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    @onenerdykid - from your experience do these numbers strike you as someone with either high instep, or otherwise someone you wouldnít recommend the Club Sport Professional to? Iím good in the lightweight touring boot department, and for a change wanted to give a heavier alpine boot a try for my daily driving. After listening to your most recent conversation with Blister it seems like the ďsuspensionĒ of a 2400gr boot is what Iím after. The only problem is my feet donít play nicely with race fit boots. I understand that the Hawx lineup would be best considering my foot, but the weight of the Hawx isnít in that same ballpark, hence the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tharmor View Post
    @onenerdykid - from your experience do these numbers strike you as someone with either high instep, or otherwise someone you wouldn’t recommend the Club Sport Professional to? I’m good in the lightweight touring boot department, and for a change wanted to give a heavier alpine boot a try for my daily driving. After listening to your most recent conversation with Blister it seems like the “suspension” of a 2400gr boot is what I’m after. The only problem is my feet don’t play nicely with race fit boots. I understand that the Hawx lineup would be best considering my foot, but the weight of the Hawx isn’t in that same ballpark, hence the question.

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    Hey Tharmor - on the face of it, your scan doesn't look incompatible with the boot but it will come down to the skills of your boot-fitter. The combination of proper footbed, stretching & grinding, and a Mimic Professional liner + HV tongue will be the best way to ensure a high success rate with your foot + CS boot combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tharmor View Post
    @onenerdykid - from your experience do these numbers strike you as someone with either high instep, or otherwise someone you wouldn’t recommend the Club Sport Professional to? I’m good in the lightweight touring boot department, and for a change wanted to give a heavier alpine boot a try for my daily driving. After listening to your most recent conversation with Blister it seems like the “suspension” of a 2400gr boot is what I’m after. The only problem is my feet don’t play nicely with race fit boots. I understand that the Hawx lineup would be best considering my foot, but the weight of the Hawx isn’t in that same ballpark, hence the question.

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    Not Matt, but you have a high instep - Verifyt and Fischer scan results are very similar, and the average for a 25.5 foot with Verifyt is something like 63mm to 68mm. Not sure about fitting the Redster CS as Matt hasn't yet sent me a pair, but a Hawx Ultra would be a good start for your foot (narrow last with relatively tall instep).

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    Just saw this video on the professional series which shows the foaming process in case anyone was curious like myself.

    https://youtu.be/itqSyYh9EIQ

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    Atomic Mimic Professional Liner

    Iím not sure these are going to cut it for me. The heel hold/pocket is lacking compared to my Sidas. It even feels looser than my regular Mimic. I have a 25 shell and we added enough foam for a 27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funkendrenchman View Post
    I’m not sure these are going to cut it for me. The heel hold/pocket is lacking compared to my Sidas. It even feels looser than my regular Mimic. I have a 25 shell and we added enough foam for a 27.
    Sounds odd. It shouldn't be as tight as a traditional bottle foam liner but it should be noticeably tighter than a stock liner. The normal experience I've heard from just about everyone is just like the OP's...

    Are you sure all of the steps were done correctly? Heating in the oven, toe caps, etc.? And you normally don't use a custom footbed?

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    I was super stoked to try these but checked Atomic's B2B in Canada today and every size BUT 27 available. Hopefully it's an error in delivery ETA's but showing 0s into next year.

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    Is it me or does it look like it is wrinkled up in areas. Almost like these was not enough foam injected


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    Quote Originally Posted by robnow View Post
    I was super stoked to try these but checked Atomic's B2B in Canada today and every size BUT 27 available. Hopefully it's an error in delivery ETA's but showing 0s into next year.
    Should be some still coming in, but stock (on everything in the world) is going to very limited this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatboy64 View Post
    Is it me or does it look like it is wrinkled up in areas. Almost like these was not enough foam injected


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    What you've circled is where the tongue goes- it's the indent from the tongue during the foaming process, which all foam liners will have.

  17. #67
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    Oh ok. Makes sense.

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    ONK, Regarding footbeds. If I get a liner foamed with my current footbed and decide for whatever reason to change that footbed out at a later date is that going to be an issue?
    Two examples:
    One, I get foamed with an Instaprint and at a later date want to switch to something a little lower volume like a superfeet "carbon"
    Two, I get foamed with a superfeet "carbon" but later want to switch to a different superfeet with the same volume but with a less aggressive arch like a "black"

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    Quote Originally Posted by phatboy64 View Post
    ONK, Regarding footbeds. If I get a liner foamed with my current footbed and decide for whatever reason to change that footbed out at a later date is that going to be an issue?
    Two examples:
    One, I get foamed with an Instaprint and at a later date want to switch to something a little lower volume like a superfeet "carbon"
    Two, I get foamed with a superfeet "carbon" but later want to switch to a different superfeet with the same volume but with a less aggressive arch like a "black"
    With any custom-made liner, you most often want to stick with one footbed. Because Mimic Professional is molded around your foot, any change in foot position, ankle position, etc. is usually not ideal as your foot/ankle will no longer sit in the original spot that the liner was made in. Small changes are ok, but large changes (i.e. completely different thickness or level of support) would most likely cause fit issues. So, I would suggest getting the footbed that works best for you and sticking with it.

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    Makes sense and that is what I thought..getting a pair foamed on Friday super stoked..

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