Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
Yeah, Stuck's right. Completely depends on the frame. Stated sizes are fairly useless these days. One company's XL is another company's Medium. And particularly with your preferences on knee over the pedal, that'll significantly vary with both actual and effective seat tube angles, both of which are all over the place with modern bikes.

You seem to have at least a decent idea of how you want your bike to fit. Look at the geo chart for a bike you own. Compare it to the bikes you're looking at. Buy accordingly. Then go in the rant thread and complain about how the geometry charts aren't actually accurate.
Go on geometry geeks and plug in bikes to compare. I’ve wasted hours and hours comparing geo of various bikes and sizes. They must have a zillion bikes on there. Plus, it’s just kinda fun if you need to kill some time.


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