Well.. Fuck... If every place wasn't crowded last year...

[hatchgreenchile]

[goCougs]

I bet that Ikon pass sales are up as well. Some combination of these factors:
- pent up demand
- more flexible pass products
- marketing machine continues to drive awareness

I’m psyched to have jumped ship to a boyne resort. I’m optimistic that crowding won’t be too bad as they are limiting pass sales and requiring reservations for Ikonics

[Bandit Man]

Wow, you guys blew it. I didn't buy a pass last year mainly because of reservation requirements. Seeing those are now gone because of this thread, I'm going to give Vail money again...

See you all at Stevens Pass in a couple months!

You’re welcome!

Those of us who skied last year know we were the actual winners. 600” year at Stevens and the reservation system favored pass holders. I got every day I wanted. And the slopes were nowhere near busy on weekends.

In comparison, this season may seem like a madhouse. But it’s going to be another La Niña, so what’s not to be stoked about?

See you at Stevens…ask for change.

[Flounder]

There is also the “need to provide proof of vaccination” to eat in most of the on mountain lodges that Epic announced recently, too. I wonder what impact that may have?

VPR did a piece yesterday about staffing at VT ski areas. It was mentioned that vaccine requirements were a way to convince potential hires that it would be safe to work there. That seemed to be the driving force behind the requirements. They were even talking about paying resort employees more. Pretty sure having to deal with obnoxious rich slobs will remain part of the job description though.

[HankScorpio]

Maybe this will draw traffic to Stowe and away from Sugarbush?






No, wait.....it'll all be a total shitshow.

[cat in january]

Maybe a five minute wait at my local ski area on a weekend powder day. Season pass was $355 early season.

[powbmps]

Stowestorm parking backed up to 89.

Trails could be a bit more crowded, but at least the lines will be shorter . From a link in that article:

Stowe Mountain Resort, Mountain Lift: The replacement and extension of the existing fixed-grip triple to a high-speed 6-person lift will increase uphill capacity by 100%, eliminate the steep hike to the base of the lift, improve reliability on windy days and offer beginner and intermediate guests with better access to lower-level terrain choices.

[jackstraw]

eliminate the steep hike to the base of the lift,

I thought it was funny on the podcast with Taos ceo that they purposely made the maze steep on the Katchina chair to keep some people away.

Fucking vail should not own Stowe or Wildcat. Disgusting.

[summit]

The big question re lineups: how many Ikon pass holders also bought cheap Epic passes or did folks buy cheap Epic passes instead of Ikon?

Many.

I bought the cheapest Epic product I could and then bought other passes.

Also a lot of the people who used to work 10 days a season for their free pass just paid for a pass this year because it was so cheap vs the time spent.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Who are these “skiers” that ski on weekends?


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[paulster2626]

Who are these “skiers” that ski on weekends?


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That's me! I am also one of the poors.

Glad to see the TGR Vail whining has started so early this year - this must mean an early start to snowfall.

[SumJongGuy]

Who are these “skiers” that ski on weekends?


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Folks who live 200 miles from the mountains and have day jobs. When I worked in retail weekends were required and i had a weekday or two off instead. Not anymore though..

[Shredhead]

Who are these “skiers” that ski on weekends?


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You can’t ski everyday, without skiing weekends.

Ikon and MC haven’t really effected Aspen too badly.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

You can’t ski everyday, without skiing weekends.

Ikon and MC haven’t really effected Aspen too badly.

What if you tour on weekends to avoid the crowds at the lifts?


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[Shredhead]

That’s fine, if you have too. It’s not an issue here.

I tour when I want too. Mostly when the lifts aren’t running or leaving from the top, for slack country laps.

[Bobcat Sig]

We don't need any more ski areas near west coast cities. Skiing is on a decline.

Not sure if serious...

I bet that Ikon pass sales are up as well. Some combination of these factors:
....

I’m optimistic that crowding won’t be too bad as they are limiting pass sales and requiring reservations for Ikonics

On that last part, I wonder if it's some protectionism by the local resort or just a savvy revenue move by IKON?

Of the former, it's a great way to keep the IKON horde at bay, and I'm one. As to the latter; it's a great way to sell a lot of passes, but restrict usage of some resorts, thereby increasing profit by disallowing skiing at those areas. JHMR is also doing this, much to my chagrin.

Who are these “skiers” that ski on weekends?

Beaters like me

[altasnob]

I used my Ikon at Snoqualmie and Alpental (Boyne owned) last year on weekends and had to make reservations. It never showed up as "full" and I am not sure they were actually restricting numbers in any way. It seemed it was just a hoop to jump through.

Counter that to Ikon owned Crystal, which had COVID reservations for everyone and weekends filled up a month before you intended to go.

[J. Barron DeJong]

Who are these “skiers” that ski on weekends?


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Some of us live in ski towns so we can be 10 miles from the hill, but need to work 9-5 jobs to afford it.

[eldereldo]

I seem to recall the Epic pass sales were up around 30% last year over the previous year.

[The SnowShow]

I seem to recall the Epic pass sales were up around 30% last year over the previous year.

So they’re up around 72% in two years? Should be a banger of a season on the weekend.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

That’s fine, if you have too. It’s not an issue here.

I tour when I want too. Mostly when the lifts aren’t running or leaving from the top, for slack country laps.

Usually my plan. I work weekends and when I’m off I’ll tour, one lift ride and return at the end of the day.


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[MagnificentUnicorn]

Some of us live in ski towns so we can be 10 miles from the hill, but need to work 9-5 jobs to afford it.

Some of us live 12 miles from the hill and work weekends so we can ski more and still avoid the weekend. We all make sacrifices.


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[Buster Highmen]

Some of us bloviate about what amazing decisions we've made in our lives so we can sneer down on those who didn't.

[cmsummit]

I seem to recall the Epic pass sales were up around 30% last year over the previous year.

18% at this point last year.

https://unofficialnetworks.com/2020/...ver-last-year/

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Some of us bloviate about what amazing decisions we've made in our lives so we can sneer down on those who didn't.

I’m glad it’s so easy for you to relate. Thanks for acknowledging my decision making skills.


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