The days of >110 underfoot pow skis are gone...

[Doremite]

I picture a bell-like curve simply measuring underfoot dimensions over time. We were all stoked on Explosivs @ 95mm and up the curve we crawled. Just making our way back down to again realizing sub 100mm skis have a place on TGR. Getting older or wiser or both?

[toast2266]

^^^ what he said.

(Edit: damnit. What pluffenmeister said).

[Upper]

I will never not have a ski over 110.

I'm honestly not often on something more than 115, but I'm glad I have something wider at times.

Maybe it's just that we all have too many skis that wide and realize we only need 1 or 2 of those for rare super deep days? And if I only pull the huge skis out a couple of days a year, I don't know if I care if they are not quite perfect so I'm less inclined to replace something in that size unless they are cheap.

Free your heel, free your mind. Wait, wrong forum.

Okay, a shout-out to Flake Farmer Dave who summed it up with this quote in an interview with Altacam...

[twoturn]

Wtf? Perhaps the days of shopping at that shop should be over?

That is probably why all the fuckin skin tracks up to pow pow zones are so skinny.

[juanrogera]

I guess I should just go back to calling myself a snowboarder again then...

[Bandit Man]

I guess I should just go back to calling myself a snowboarder again then...

You are now obligated to ski the Spoon 150’s at PCMR and then drop into the shop in question at the end of the day and ask for a hot wax. A detailed TR should be shared here after that has occurred.

[TeleBeaver]

Sub 100 for groomers and low tide. 110-118 for daily soft snow conditions. 120+ for deep days. The 105mm category is really the worst imo. Sluggish and lazy on groomers, with not quite enough surface area to slash/surf in fresh. There are some sweet 108mm underfoot skis out there right now, but personally I would like to see them up around 110-112 to be perfect daily driver width. 95-115-125 should cover anyone's bases at a relatively snowy resort.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Sub 100 for groomers and low tide. 110-118 for daily soft snow conditions. 120+ for deep days. The 105mm category is really the worst imo. Sluggish and lazy on groomers, with not quite enough surface area to slash/surf in fresh. There are some sweet 108mm underfoot skis out there right now, but personally I would like to see them up around 110-112 to be perfect daily driver width. 95-115-125 should cover anyone's bases at a relatively snowy resort.

2mm is a game changer


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[utagonian]

I usually have a dozen skis in my rotation with some overlap so I grouped them. I ski Utah and get around 100 days/season. Going back three years I used:
112-128 waist (powder skis): 40%
Mid 60s (race skis): 20%
83s: 15%
98s: 15%
105-108: 10%

If I had to go with a three ski quiver, I’d probably do with 65-98-125 ish

[tuco]

Sub 100 for groomers and low tide. 110-118 for daily soft snow conditions. 120+ for deep days. The 105mm category is really the worst imo. Sluggish and lazy on groomers, with not quite enough surface area to slash/surf in fresh. There are some sweet 108mm underfoot skis out there right now, but personally I would like to see them up around 110-112 to be perfect daily driver width. 95-115-125 should cover anyone's bases at a relatively snowy resort.

You're equation is overlooking some serious fun in the 130+category

5mm is a life changer

[GoSlowGoFar]

I would think it’d be worth it to at least have a couple pow skis on the wall for shop credibility reasons, even if you’re selling them at 30-40% off at the end of the season.

[detrusor]

My LP 105’s take serious umbrage at that lazy comment


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[toast2266]

Sub 100 for groomers and low tide. 110-118 for daily soft snow conditions. 120+ for deep days. The 105mm category is really the worst imo. Sluggish and lazy on groomers, with not quite enough surface area to slash/surf in fresh. There are some sweet 108mm underfoot skis out there right now, but personally I would like to see them up around 110-112 to be perfect daily driver width. 95-115-125 should cover anyone's bases at a relatively snowy resort.

I think that depends on your snowpack. If I skied a dryer, continental snowpack, I'd be more into the ~95mm skis for a daily driver. But in a more maritime snowpack where normal conditions might be an inch or two of soft, heavy snow on top dense but not bulletproof, I like the ~105mm category way more for day to day use.

Personally, I don't have much use for ~95mm category. I have skinny carvers for truly bad conditions, and then I skip to the ~105mm category.

(Also, yeah. What detrusor said. Lp105's lay trenches.)

[zion zig zag]

2mm is a game changer


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Ha. I had to pull out a ruler to look at 2mm to wrap my head around the game changerness of it.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Ha. I had to pull out a ruler to look at 2mm to wrap my head around the game changerness of it.

Right?!


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[tuco]

Ha. I had to pull out a ruler to look at 2mm to wrap my head around the game changerness of it.

He didn't make the rules man

[hoarhey]

I finally broke down and purchased a 102 mm waisted ski after 5 years of skiing my Praxis GPO 116mm as a daily driver (vacationer to Jackson then mainly Aspen zone).

I purchased Praxis Sluggers (102 mm) and see them being used quite a bit.
So far, just used two days in Snowmass/Aspen Highlands and it impressed with its versatility.

I was able to snag another pair of GPO's so these will be my softer snow skis.

But I have added some 120+ skis, just to spite this thread (and as a retirement investment - so I tell myself)...

[TeleBeaver]

Ha. I had to pull out a ruler to look at 2mm to wrap my head around the game changerness of it.

Hey 2mm x 1900mm long adds up to 5.89 square inches of additional surface area, and 5.89 inches is nothing to scoff at (ask me how I know).

[DarthMarkus]

Hey 2mm x 1900mm long adds up to 5.89 square inches of additional surface area, and 5.89 inches is nothing to scoff at (ask me how I know).

I dunno, I get scoffed at a lot for 5. Another .89 inches isn't gonna change much.

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[SirVicSmasher]

I dunno, I get scoffed at a lot for 5. Another .89 inches isn't gonna change much.

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[CaliBrit]

Sub 100 for groomers and low tide. 110-118 for daily soft snow conditions. 120+ for deep days. The 105mm category is really the worst imo. Sluggish and lazy on groomers, with not quite enough surface area to slash/surf in fresh. There are some sweet 108mm underfoot skis out there right now, but personally I would like to see them up around 110-112 to be perfect daily driver width. 95-115-125 should cover anyone's bases at a relatively snowy resort.

94, 117, 138 over here