The days of >110 underfoot pow skis are gone...

**detrusor** · 09-23-2021, 06:42 AM

I few years ago I got the same type of answer…nobody needs skis longer than 185.

I’m by no means the best skier on the hill and 175 and 6’1” but shitballs….I have some skinny race skis shorter than that, everything else is 190-201

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**tuco** · 09-23-2021, 07:02 AM

Weird.
I have skis 110 and under.
Never ski 'em.
Good thing I've hoarded

Also, pow skis start ~130ish uf....

**VON** · 09-23-2021, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by east or bust

I think the shop guy meant to say the days of powder skiing in Park City are gone… well almost
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facts

**pfluffenmeister** · 09-23-2021, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by ticketchecker

So these m Free 108’s in my office are good for pow or not?

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Nope.

Too wde.

**ticketchecker** · 09-23-2021, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister

Nope.

Too wde.

Shit. Now I'll never be able to sell them in gear swap

**gregorys** · 09-23-2021, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by XXX-er

...considering the average person skis 10 days a season at a resort with all the snow beat out by 10am who gets a chance to use it ?...

I dunno, I know I'm not the average skier - so what I do doesn't matter in the general world of ski production and what sells...but I find that what ski I want to ski doesn't have a ton of correlation between how deep it is.

I often find that my Bodacious skis _way_ better than anything else with just a few inches deep. (In weird snow, I just find I like them, no matter how deep or not it is.)

So, while I get there's relevance in how deep vs how wide the ski is - I'm just not at all sold that snow depth is the only, or even the biggest factor in how wide I might go on a particular day.

(When I'm spring skiing, crushing slush piles, I'm always on my beefy "pow" skis.)

Perhaps the argument I'm trying to make is that wider doesn't particularly mean pow. I just have several skis and I ski whatever seems the most fun to ski for any particular day, even if it's my Bodacious in 2" of new. Or my Volkl One in spring slurpee conditions.

**BC.** · 09-23-2021, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by gregorys

I dunno, I know I'm not the average skier - so what I do doesn't matter in the general world of ski production and what sells...but I find that what ski I want to ski doesn't have a ton of correlation between how deep it is.

I often find that my Bodacious skis _way_ better than anything else with just a few inches deep. (In weird snow, I just find I like them, no matter how deep or not it is.)

So, while I get there's relevance in how deep vs how wide the ski is - I'm just not at all sold that snow depth is the only, or even the biggest factor in how wide I might go on a particular day.

(When I'm spring skiing, crushing slush piles, I'm always on my beefy "pow" skis.)

Perhaps the argument I'm trying to make is that wider doesn't particularly mean pow. I just have several skis and I ski whatever seems the most fun to ski for any particular day, even if it's my Bodacious in 2" of new. Or my Volkl One in spring slurpee conditions.

^^^Feel the same when on my 2014 Katanas..

**XXX-er** · 09-23-2021, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Eluder

This is all a load of BS. I was ski buyer until 2 years ago. If you want be a ski shop in the west you need to have some pow skis on that wall in the fall. I get being sold out buy Christmas but there is no risk in bringing in 4-8 pair of real skis. Worse case you sell them at cost. If you’re shop can’t float 1400-2000 in inventory for the season then you got bigger problems. They are show pieces to get people stoked, you hook up a couple locals and get lucky on a few pair to some Texans. In the end nobody looses. Sounds like shitty management to me.

yeah you gotta have a few pow skis, just like selling 10K bikes doesnt make a lot of money cuz the margins are smaller but you gotta build the stoke,

you can always kick the product out for cost if you have to but they should be on the wall

IME people see wide skis in the p-lot & chair line so they ask you, that happed with JJ and wailer 112, now those skis are THE most popular ski on the local hill even tho I don't think either was all that great

**SumJongGuy** · 09-23-2021, 09:22 AM

110+ fat skis are the Fuct jeans of the 10s..

**XXX-er** · 09-23-2021, 09:28 AM

So to wrap up 4 pages

the guy in the shop was full of shit

**AEvospace** · 09-23-2021, 09:34 AM

If a shop doesnt carry ARGs or Pontoons, then are they truly a ski shop?

**bodywhomper** · 09-23-2021, 09:55 AM

Having a pair or two of those flagship powder skis in rentals/demos helps to sell the skis on the sales floor. It’s been a long time, but I had sales data from several ski shops to support that strategy.

**Bobcat Sig** · 09-23-2021, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by XXX-er

after 3 pages of wanking dentist reliving ... something

actual data,

thank you

any clue what the new ski market will be like this year, do you expect to sell out like bikes and other out-door gear have ?

Umm... that's dental lawyering to you, sir.

Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

My man! Stormy days are better than powder days. Don’t tell anyone

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Yup. It's snowing. Better stay home. :

Originally Posted by whyturn

I call nonsense. Praxis protest back up at $550 and one of the best fat skis around. Support the indies!!!!

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Hear hear. I'm always happy to pay for indie fatties (that's totally a PornHub thing, isn't it?). Sure, I'm usually exercising a small discount, but buying direct for bomber skis is great and is part of what makes this passion great.

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

110+ fat skis are the Fuct jeans of the 10s..

Or the JNCOs of the 90s?

**Jason4** · 09-23-2021, 11:18 AM

I'm not even a skier and I have a pair of Bent Chetler 120s that I bought off the rack at my local ski shop last season. It must be a regional thing.

**SumJongGuy** · 09-23-2021, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Bobcat Sig

Or the JNCOs of the 90s?

Silly looking oversized jeans= silly looking over sized skis.

**Bobcat Sig** · 09-23-2021, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Silly looking oversized skis= silly looking over sized skis.

Silly looking oversized skier?

**EWG** · 09-23-2021, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by XXX-er

So to wrap up 4 pages

the guy in the shop was full of shit

That is an accurate summary, yes.

**XXX-er** · 09-23-2021, 01:04 PM

The prosecution rests

back in the day some kid in a department store type setting told me go 160s for women and 170 for mens

the owner of one of the local ski stores was telling every body they didnt need wide skis but that was cuz he was euro style and he didnt really stock any wide skis to speak of

it they don't have it you don't need it

**SumJongGuy** · 09-23-2021, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bobcat Sig

Silly looking oversized skier?

Oops typo...

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Silly looking oversized jeans= silly looking over sized skis.

But seriously though.. what shops should stock and what people should ski depends on where they are located and what conditions are the average there.. Wisconsin <> Washington

**Dromond** · 09-23-2021, 01:16 PM

I think 110+ is much more critical in dense/wet snow than typical the 4-6" interior champagne "pow days" where you barely even float anyways. You'll see plenty of fat ski on the rack in Seattle. That said, I think over 120 is become rare,

**Pinned** · 09-23-2021, 01:18 PM

Cater to your demographic. Maybe shocking to TGR, but a lot of casual skiers don’t even look at big pow skis as some sort of grail or high end item, they just look at them as kind of stupid.

Not saying I agree, but my east coast friends found it shocking that my daily driver in the west is a 108.

**XXX-er** · 09-23-2021, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dromond

I think 110+ is much more critical in dense/wet snow than typical the 4-6" interior champagne "pow days" where you barely even float anyways. You'll see plenty of fat ski on the rack in Seattle. That said, I think over 120 is become rare,

I gots 135 full reverse but the times I can used them are far and few between where I skis even tho i can ski every day

120 is much more versatile, knowing what I know now I wouldn't buy the 135's again cuz the 120's get you almost all the way there

except when the 135's feel like hitting the down button on an elevator

**XXX-er** · 09-23-2021, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Pinned

Cater to your demographic. Maybe shocking to TGR, but a lot of casual skiers don’t even look at big pow skis as some sort of grail or high end item, they just look at them as kind of stupid. .

thats cuz they are stupid

or I wouldn't have a pair

**CascadeLuke** · 09-23-2021, 01:36 PM

Even Iggy made a statement about how he doesn’t know why they even make skis over 112 anymore. Having knee issues.. My buys since spring
83 Stockli Laser AR
95 Stockli Stormrider
108 Kastle ZX
110 custom skinny BG down from 118

**JayPowHound** · 09-23-2021, 01:41 PM

I'm 39. I haven't bought skis off the wall since the last time daddy paid when I was maybe 16?

Just saying, "real" skiers who know what they want aren't shopping at brick and mortar shops.

Not at all surprised that they aren't carrying stuff on either end of the spectrum.

Are you shocked that your average downtown ski shop doesn't stock WC SL skis?

Same thing.

Those who know what they want get it from the source.

The fringe tends to know their product and buy direct or used.

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