Sleep apnea and suicide. Mag down?

**frorider** · 09-22-2021, 09:29 AM

https://bikepacking.com/plog/iohan-g...iev-1988-2021/

Svengali posted about Iohan’s death https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...P-Bikewanderer in bike forum. Apparently he was a mag? I only saw his stuff on bikepacking.com.

From comments I’m seeing everywhere on this sad news, it’s not uncommon for sleep apnea to cause depression.

**Dantheman** · 09-22-2021, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by frorider

From comments I’m seeing everywhere on this sad news, it’s not uncommon for sleep apnea to cause depression.

Chronic sleep loss of any kind worsens mental health across the board.

**stealurface831** · 09-22-2021, 09:52 AM

Saw the post by Svengali. No idea if he was mag.

Sleep apnea takes its toll for sure. You wake up every morning feeling like you never went to bed and that tiredness just perpetuates. CPAP changed my life the first time I used it. I'm looking into a mimi CPAP with solar powered battery pack for multinight trips as we speak. Something like that could have possibly saved this guy's life.

Tragic that he couldn't get help and it drove him over the edge. Valhalla.

**Art Shirk** · 09-22-2021, 10:14 AM

Svengali was def a mag. This is horrible. Man, you never can tell what sort of internal turmoil folks are dealing with. RIP Svengali

**seano732** · 09-22-2021, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Art Shirk

Svengali was def a mag. This is horrible. Man, you never can tell what sort of internal turmoil folks are dealing with. RIP Svengali

Unless I read this wrong, the Mag was bikewanderer……Svengali posted the RIP in the bike forum. Sucks.

**RootSkier** · 09-22-2021, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Art Shirk

Svengali was def a mag. This is horrible. Man, you never can tell what sort of internal turmoil folks are dealing with. RIP Svengali

Wait, Svengali posted the link about this. I think that's the extent of his involvement?

**stealurface831** · 09-22-2021, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by RootSkier

Wait, Svengali posted the link about this. I think that's the extent of his involvement?

he posted his own RIP thread.

**Art Shirk** · 09-22-2021, 10:24 AM

Ok, my bad. Certainly dont want to share improper info. In any regard, this is a bummer

**SumJongGuy** · 09-22-2021, 10:28 AM

Ouch, ya solid dude from several boards I post on here and there. Mental illness comes on many forms with different causes. Dude must have been in a situation where the odds were stacked against him for sure. Glad he's at peace now. I'm sure his friends and family are devastated.

**SumJongGuy** · 09-22-2021, 10:30 AM

I'm guessing a loved one knew his login info and posted that as him..

**frorider** · 09-22-2021, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Art Shirk

Ok, my bad. Certainly dont want to share improper info. In any regard, this is a bummer

Yup it’s a bummer. I think Iohan’s death just connected the dots for many of us. Amazing athlete, amazing endurance, but in the background of all this he had this issue wearing him down.

It seems that conversations about the many forms and causes of depression are more open these days. I hope that means we identify it and help ourselves and others more.

**frorider** · 09-22-2021, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

I'm guessing a loved one knew his login info and posted that as him..

WTF? Are you repeating Art’s initial confusion?

**Danno** · 09-22-2021, 10:42 AM

I don't see any mag with the name "bikewanderer", is svegali's use of what seems like a username what made you think he was a mag? Or is there something else?

In any event, seems like an amazing guy, and definitely a bummer.