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Thread: Decaf coffee and 0% beer
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09-17-2021, 10:49 AM #26
It's surprisingly OK too!
Not sure what the commercial options are, but roasted a lb and it's been fine in the freezer for 6 months now. We'd drink it more often if our backup grinder didn't result in 15sec shot times on the finest setting. 1st world problems though.
Anyway, yeah... SWP FTW
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09-17-2021, 11:03 AM #27
I've been adding 200-250 mg (~1/8 tsp) of L-Theanine powder to coffee for years. There's strong clinical evidence that combining L-theanine with caffeine counteracts caffeine-induced increases in blood pressure. More broadly, it also seems to reduce BP spikes in response to stressful tasks and situations, and promotes relaxation without sedation.
References:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17891480/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3518171/
https://examine.com/supplements/theanine/
https://www.bulksupplements.com/products/l-theanine
Tea has a fraction of the caffeine coffee has, plus naturally occurring theanine (though adding a little more is good, too). A pretty strong cup of matcha is only ~35 mg of caffeine.
On the alcohol side, I love Busch NA these days. Ever since my 2019 head injury I've had no desire to drink. Plus, I can drink the Busch in the car without worrying about DUI or Open Container.
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09-17-2021, 11:04 AM #28"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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09-17-2021, 11:08 AM #29
Yup - have read that paper filters remove some of what is considered harmful/not good.
Gypsy Cold Care FTW! Good stuff that.
Still can't find the study I read before but finding lots more like this: Habitual coffee consumption and blood pressure: An epidemiological perspective“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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09-17-2021, 11:14 AM #30
Tea *usually* has less caffeine than coffee - but not dramatically so and sometimes it’s equivalent.
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09-17-2021, 11:40 AM #31
MY BP is weird. The Systolic never gets above 140, and that is rare but the diasolic caused a nurse in FL during my COVD test to say , that cant be right and check other arm. still triple digits.
On meds now and lifestyle changes from doc. Reduce the booze, reduce caffeine, more excersise. used to only get on my bike for big rides when I could spare a few hours, now go out multiple times a week in the AM for short intense 30-40 mins
Drinking less and exercising more is never a bad thing.
Diet wasnt bad before, didnt think I ate a lot of salt but then realized my fav snacks were Almonds & Beef jerkey, plus it really is everywhere if you pay attention..
So the NA beer ( tried a lot of craft brew but all tasted off, Heinken 0% best for me plus 2 roads lil devils. Good IPA at like 2,5 %,90 cals) is more ritual for me. When I am watching a Dodger game I nervous drink beers, now I just swap out the full test after 1 or 2. Same for United matches and Guinness.
Have some good decaf teas in the house ( Gypsy Cold Care yessir) but need to brew up a cold batch of one. Also eating out hard to find decaf Ice tea, thats more what I meant. Got some Peets Decaf thats OK.
Ganja & dark Chocolate? check check
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09-17-2021, 12:02 PM #32
Higher lower number (diastolic) is somewhat different beast.
You could speak to a high blood pressure specialist doctor for specific recommendations - especially given your family history.
Less inflammation is a good goal - which less booze and more exercise will help with. Less sugar intake might help - that is if you want to go full bore and cut out all the fun things in life :P
JMHO
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09-17-2021, 12:26 PM #33“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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09-17-2021, 12:28 PM #34
I’m not sure decaf reduces blood pressure. I mean look at this Swedish documentary.
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09-17-2021, 12:55 PM #35
Been avoiding sugar as much as I can for a while. We dont get a long
KQ ruining all my fun. Until CT goes full rec legal I take what I can get.
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09-17-2021, 02:24 PM #36Registered User
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YMMV but 12 yars ago I quit all added sugar & honey and cut food portions by 40% cu of type II diabetes
In 6 months I lost 12-15 lbs going from an over weight BMI to a normal BMI, lost the gut, a1c went down 2 points, good cholestral went up, bad cholestral went down
IME the more sugar you eat the more you want so just stop using sugar pretty soon you won't miss it
I can't/ don't eat any sugar nowLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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09-17-2021, 02:24 PM #37“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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09-17-2021, 03:04 PM #38Registered User
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Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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09-17-2021, 03:29 PM #39
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09-17-2021, 03:44 PM #40
Drive up to MA every couple months and stock up. NY soon too
Not to get spammy, but my store carries tons of NA craft brews and sells all of the above plus a few others. We ship daily to 27 states ( good alcoholic beers too ). I won’t post it, but pm if you want the site link.
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09-17-2021, 03:51 PM #41“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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09-17-2021, 04:04 PM #42
It’s not always about weight. Cutting down on sugar and booze could potentially lead to less inflammation. Which could potentially lead to lower diastolic blood pressure. Potentially.
If you want weight loss (which will lower blood pressure as well) then it gets a lot more complicated - including timing of your meals, fiber content, content of macros in meals etc etc etc etc.
I’m not at all surprised your weight never changed. That’s exactly what I would expect (no difference in weight) with the changes you mentioned.
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09-17-2021, 04:59 PM #43
As far as tea goes, try rooibos. Wonderful flavor and naturally caffeine free. As far as alc goes - I've just cut down and upped other things as others have noted. Mass dispensaries are usually convenient to highways.
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09-17-2021, 05:11 PM #44
Lisinopril and Lipitor. They work, minimal side effects. Significant reduction in risk of heart attack and stroke. Drink coffee and booze in moderation.
I understand that some healthy people just have high blood pressure and cholesterol. I’m all about living longer.
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09-17-2021, 05:32 PM #45Registered User
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well apres diet change/ cutting sugar the weight was already at normal BMI so while I sometimes bounce down but mostly up 3 lbs either way it always returns to that same fasting weight
Stopping drinking and literaly diving off the wagon with a beer in each hand did nothing to weight
getting drunk or just drinking was exactly the same as 6 months before so it was not easier to get drunk
what I did lose was a certain sharpness from being substance freeLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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09-18-2021, 12:34 AM #46
If you decided to cut out caffeine on your own, this thread should have convinced you you don't need to. If your doctor suggested it, go talk to him about it with a print out of this thread and the links. Docs are very impressed by the medical advice on TGR.
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09-18-2021, 06:01 AM #47
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09-18-2021, 08:43 AM #48man of ice
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09-18-2021, 08:47 AM #49man of ice
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09-18-2021, 09:00 AM #50
In the past, I have had acid reflux and I just had my gall bladder removed. 4-5 weeks ago, I quit coffee (I regularly drank 3 double espressos/day) red meat, fried food, cheese, enriched flour, alcohol consumption and chocolate, cold turkey. Of course, I crave each of these things, but it's just not worth it........to be continued.
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