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09-22-2021, 10:02 AM #601Registered User
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09-22-2021, 10:12 AM #602
That's a good observation. Laws that requires cops to arrest when they have probable cause to arrest for a dv assault do not gender discriminate. An "assault" is an offensive touching, no matter how minor. So if Petito said she scratched dude, and dude confirmed, they are legally required to arrest Petito and book her in jail. But after that, they should go back to the 911 caller and see if they can build a case against dude, and then they can go arrest him too. I have seen cases where both dv partners are arrested for assault. And then there would be a no contact order against each of them. And again, ya, people violate no contact orders all the time and go murder their partner. But at least the police department would have been protected from liability in that case.
An assault is only legal if done in self defense, and the force used in self defense cannot be more than necessary. And cops typically let the prosecutor/jury decide what is and what is not self defense (so they arrest away and let the system sort it out).
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09-22-2021, 10:19 AM #603
Arresting and jailing people does not necessarily mean they will be charged with a crime. But it does introduce them to resources that they may have not known were available. Like victim advocates and free resources (food, shelter, ect) for dv victims. These services are also available for dude too, if he is a dv victim.
That's why states have enacted these mandatory arrest for dv assault laws. They want to separate the parties and use the power of the court system (no contact orders) to ensure they have had adequate cooling off periods. Think of the additional check and balances that would have occurred if the cops had arrested both parties in this situation. Both would have been sitting in the Moab jail with time to reflect on what the hell is happening (without any self medicating). Then both would have had to go in front of a judge for a release hearing. They can, and probably should, keep their mouth shut at that hearing. But judges will often try to discuss the situation with the person at that hearing. And a prosecutor and free public defender are in the room for this too. They can speak to the public defender free of charge and tell the attorney anything they want, without fear of it being used against them (public defender discussion is confidential). Additional set of eyes (besides the cops) to dig a little deeper.
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09-22-2021, 10:22 AM #604
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09-22-2021, 10:38 AM #605?
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First I heard a news report where it was mentioned he had gone back to FL. Date after 08/12. Not mentioned. Then I found two YouTube investigators who went through a tick toc of everything they did by date. Two different sources same information. One of them even tracked down an Uber eats delivery to her to a Fairfield Inn outside SLC on the 24th. Paid by her dad I will see if I can stumble upon that video
Notice the main stream media really sucks at details
Little things like. What happened between 8/12 and 8/25. I can’t even tell when she went dead. From 8/25 to 8/30? And that dude did not drive back to FL. In 2 daysOwn your fail. ~Jer~
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09-22-2021, 10:40 AM #606
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09-22-2021, 10:41 AM #607Registered User
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I would not fully believe anything MTT posts on any thread on TGR.
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09-22-2021, 10:44 AM #608
But the youtube investigators did their research!
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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09-22-2021, 11:08 AM #609
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09-22-2021, 11:15 AM #610Banned
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09-22-2021, 11:36 AM #613
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09-22-2021, 11:40 AM #614
Also here to note:
There’s nothing funnier than when somebody is desperately serious about being anti-joking.
Jokes help get through things. It’s a little relief. Telling somebody they can’t joke around about something awful is like telling telling somebody with a splitting headache they can’t have a tylenol.
Oh you want to feel better for a bit? Fuck you, suffer!
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09-22-2021, 11:46 AM #615
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09-22-2021, 11:56 AM #616
Or if she was uncomfortable driving the tiny van cross country(*), she could drive to GJ or Price while she calls her parents to come get her. Then call cops wherever she stops to get protection.
She had outs if she wanted to take them. Either her Stockholm Syndrome was off the charts or she didn’t see him as a threat.
(*) She did mention in her interview with Moab PD that she was not comfortable driving for long distance.
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09-22-2021, 11:57 AM #617"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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09-22-2021, 11:57 AM #618
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09-22-2021, 12:03 PM #619
I don't profess to know anything about this case (the whole "missing pretty blond white woman gets all the news coverage" thing bothers me too much to read, even if it is a tragedy for her family and friends). So I don't know the state of their relationship, what happened on that traffic stop, or whatever. But the notion that someone living in a cycle of abuse could/should easily "just leave" when they seem to have the chance is woefully uninformed and downright offensive. Any one of you who thinks it is that simple should educate yourselves on domestic violence, because your take here is a really bad look.
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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09-22-2021, 12:03 PM #620
UT/WY Missing Persons Case>WILD
The tone and the lack of understanding of domestic abuse /abusers/victims from many in this thread is disgusting.
Salve…/mtng really triggers a bunch of you misogynist assholes, but she’s right on regarding the domestic abuse angle here.
The cops suggesting to the girl that they are doing her a favor by not arresting her further her thoughts that she’s in the wrong and abuser getting away with it. Hence will lead her to think no one will believe her.
edit: Danno gets it
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09-22-2021, 12:05 PM #621Registered User
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09-22-2021, 12:11 PM #622
I don’t read many posts in here as joking. There’s a few obvious ones, but when misogynists double down on her responses I don’t think she’s being “anti-joke.”. She’s being anti-misogynist and calling them out. Then folks who are triggered by her chime in to defend the misogyny. wtf
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