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08-16-2021, 09:46 AM #1
9990 is 86'd
This won't go over well
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08-16-2021, 09:59 AM #2
Why not a beacon-activated gate? Seems so simple, so it will never happen.
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08-16-2021, 10:05 AM #3Registered User
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08-16-2021, 10:06 AM #4
Peak 5 is open, so you still have access. It's just a slower chair and a longer walk.
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08-16-2021, 10:21 AM #5Registered User
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08-16-2021, 10:37 AM #6
Obviously you have never ventured out of the Peak 5 gate. Effectively, this will reduce 90% of backcountry access from PCMR.
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08-16-2021, 10:41 AM #7
So, you need to be a ‘troller to get the goods..,
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08-16-2021, 10:43 AM #8Registered User
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08-16-2021, 10:52 AM #9
Glad I left when I did... Peak 5 will still be a liability as the tourons drop into python chutes without realizing how steep And deadly they can be.
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08-16-2021, 11:19 AM #10
Not only that, but the skin unto the Ridgeline is a huge hassle and dangerous. It's been a while and I need to poke around there more this year, but initially you encounter that craggy bushwhacking, and then I think that you need to skin up MacDonald's which is prone to avalanches. There is a reason why 9990 is/was used by 99.9% of the people accessing that terrain. Can you imagine trying to access square top, or anything North from Peak 5? Sound of Music....buh-bye.
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08-16-2021, 11:43 AM #11Registered User
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So I'm correct, a lower gate doesn't reduce access it changes it.
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08-16-2021, 11:52 AM #12
I've only been there a handful of days but I've seen some dumb ass shit around that gate. Can't say I'm surprised.
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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08-16-2021, 12:13 PM #13powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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08-16-2021, 12:14 PM #14
Damn shame.
I worked on this last time I was there:
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08-16-2021, 01:13 PM #15Registered User
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I get your point and you are right, but Shindler said it's reduced by 90%, not 50% (2 gates to 1) so I was asking him essentially is the BC zone reduced 90%, as in honestly asking can you not get to the top to access it anymore and that's why it's 90% less or is it still 100% accessible, just different?
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08-16-2021, 01:23 PM #16
I meant that Probably only 10%, if that, the people who accessed the back country from 9990 will be accessing it from peak five in the future
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08-16-2021, 04:02 PM #17Registered User
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Thought the discussion over backcountry access in the states was settled in the '90s? (it's our land, the taxpayers).
What changed? People die every year skiing these lines.
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08-16-2021, 04:06 PM #18Registered User
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08-16-2021, 04:11 PM #19
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08-16-2021, 04:12 PM #20Registered User
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The lines that are killing people are on public land. The gate is on private land according to every article. A map where green and blue are public land: https://caltopo.com/p/0U1JE
You still can access the lines using PCMR lifts and land. Just from a different location.
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08-16-2021, 04:19 PM #21
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08-16-2021, 04:23 PM #22
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08-16-2021, 04:42 PM #23
I've booted it before. It's steep and shitty and you are hanging out on top of Big Mac and below some big-ass cornices. It's not a place an experienced backcountry skier would choose to access the ridgeline as their default, given the other options in the area. It's not great for either safety or convenience.
Maybe there's a clever way to put a skinner in that didn't occur to me while I was booting it, but I didn't see it.
If Vail gave a shit about the skiing public, they would've moved the gate to the dirtbag skinner at the top of Saddleback. But if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
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08-16-2021, 04:52 PM #24
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