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    Quote Originally Posted by PB View Post
    Guilty as charged; suggested sources?
    I'd say start with the "Gang of Four" producers since even they aren't that pricey -- Lapierre, Foillard, Breton, Jean-Paul Thévenet. Depending on your preferred styles, just start tasting various cru beajoulais -- https://flatiron-wines.com/blogs/the...-of-beaujolais . Prices for cru beajoulais are up a good bit in recent years but still very affordable compared to most other regions. My weakness is Morgon and since my buddy distributes Georges Descombes I drink a good bit of his wines.

    And -- some of these folks even make a nouveau with drinking. In the right time and place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Goddammit.

    I apparently can get that somewhat locally for $10/bottle.

    Might have to go out soon and pick some up...
    My local liquor store found it and ordered it for me... damn good $10 bottle of wine.

    Thanks for the heads-up!

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    So who’s buying a Chateau Margaux vertical from Garagiste?

    FIRST COME FIRST SERVED up to the stated limit/person until we run out:

    Chateau Margaux 6 Bottle Vertical – 1996, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 – 6 x 750ml (Bordeaux) - $6,978.74
    LIMIT 3/person (18 total bottles)
    (6 bottles, all original condition from the Chateau cellar; the 1996 is one of the greatest bottles ever produced in Bordeaux, just ask my nephew Michael about this wine; 1996 (NM100), 2000 (WA100)(JD100), 2003 (WA98), 2005 (JS100), 2009 (WA99), 2010 (JS100) )

    Chateau Margaux 3 Magnum Vertical – 2005, 2009, 2010 – 3 x 1.5lt (Bordeaux) - $6,876.43
    LIMIT 3/person (9 total magnums)
    (3 magnums, all original condition from the Chateau cellar)

    Chateau Margaux 3 Double Magnum Vertical – 2005, 2009, 2010 – 3 x 3.0lt (Bordeaux) - $16,918.60
    LIMIT 1/person (3 total double magnums)
    (3 double magnums, all original condition from the Chateau cellar)

    Chateau “100pt” Collection – 6 x 100pt examples from around Bordeaux 6 x 750ml (Bordeaux) - $2,870.64
    LIMIT 6/person (36 total bottles)

    (6 bottles, 1 x 750ml each: 2009 Smith Haut Lafite (WA100), 2009 Leoville-Poyferre (WA100), 2010 Chateau La Mission Haut Brion (JS100), 2010 Chateau Montrose (WA100), 2010 Leoville Barton (WE100), 2016 Cos d’Estournel (WA100) )


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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    So who’s buying a Chateau Margaux vertical from Garagiste?

    FIRST COME FIRST SERVED up to the stated limit/person until we run out:

    Chateau Margaux 6 Bottle Vertical – 1996, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 – 6 x 750ml (Bordeaux) - $6,978.74
    LIMIT 3/person (18 total bottles)
    (6 bottles, all original condition from the Chateau cellar; the 1996 is one of the greatest bottles ever produced in Bordeaux, just ask my nephew Michael about this wine; 1996 (NM100), 2000 (WA100)(JD100), 2003 (WA98), 2005 (JS100), 2009 (WA99), 2010 (JS100) )

    Chateau Margaux 3 Magnum Vertical – 2005, 2009, 2010 – 3 x 1.5lt (Bordeaux) - $6,876.43
    LIMIT 3/person (9 total magnums)
    (3 magnums, all original condition from the Chateau cellar)

    Chateau Margaux 3 Double Magnum Vertical – 2005, 2009, 2010 – 3 x 3.0lt (Bordeaux) - $16,918.60
    LIMIT 1/person (3 total double magnums)
    (3 double magnums, all original condition from the Chateau cellar)

    Chateau “100pt” Collection – 6 x 100pt examples from around Bordeaux 6 x 750ml (Bordeaux) - $2,870.64
    LIMIT 6/person (36 total bottles)

    (6 bottles, 1 x 750ml each: 2009 Smith Haut Lafite (WA100), 2009 Leoville-Poyferre (WA100), 2010 Chateau La Mission Haut Brion (JS100), 2010 Chateau Montrose (WA100), 2010 Leoville Barton (WE100), 2016 Cos d’Estournel (WA100) )


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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    So who’s buying a Chateau Margaux vertical from Garagiste?

    FIRST COME FIRST SERVED up to the stated limit/person until we run out:

    Chateau Margaux 6 Bottle Vertical – 1996, 2000, 2003, 2005, 2009, 2010 – 6 x 750ml (Bordeaux) - $6,978.74
    LIMIT 3/person (18 total bottles)
    (6 bottles, all original condition from the Chateau cellar; the 1996 is one of the greatest bottles ever produced in Bordeaux, just ask my nephew Michael about this wine; 1996 (NM100), 2000 (WA100)(JD100), 2003 (WA98), 2005 (JS100), 2009 (WA99), 2010 (JS100) )

    Chateau Margaux 3 Magnum Vertical – 2005, 2009, 2010 – 3 x 1.5lt (Bordeaux) - $6,876.43
    LIMIT 3/person (9 total magnums)
    (3 magnums, all original condition from the Chateau cellar)

    Chateau Margaux 3 Double Magnum Vertical – 2005, 2009, 2010 – 3 x 3.0lt (Bordeaux) - $16,918.60
    LIMIT 1/person (3 total double magnums)
    (3 double magnums, all original condition from the Chateau cellar)

    Chateau “100pt” Collection – 6 x 100pt examples from around Bordeaux 6 x 750ml (Bordeaux) - $2,870.64
    LIMIT 6/person (36 total bottles)

    (6 bottles, 1 x 750ml each: 2009 Smith Haut Lafite (WA100), 2009 Leoville-Poyferre (WA100), 2010 Chateau La Mission Haut Brion (JS100), 2010 Chateau Montrose (WA100), 2010 Leoville Barton (WE100), 2016 Cos d’Estournel (WA100) )


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    I started out on Burgundy.

    But I just never got to the harder stuff.
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    Delicious. Balanced. Red fruit, mostly cherry, and leather. I’m sure it would change with age but didn’t feel like it wasn’t ready.

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    ^^^ That's a cool bottle!

    Back before the me too era we used to describe barbaresco as being more feminine in style and barolo more masculine. The hallmark nebbiolo tannin is still present but usually not in the abundance that it is in barolo. Plus that 2015 vintage was so warm throughout Europe that it made the all the premium stuff feel plump and generous with fruit which served to further obscure some of the tannin.
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    Opened this up last night, called the store in the morning first thing to get more and they're out! Mon dieu, fuck.

    https://www.morenaturalwine.com/prod...dos-dchat-2019
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    Quote Originally Posted by ml242 View Post
    Opened this up last night, called the store in the morning first thing to get more and they're out! Mon dieu, fuck.

    https://www.morenaturalwine.com/prod...dos-dchat-2019
    I wish i could drink Jura and cru Beaujolais reds like...4x a week and still have a pocketbook.

    Will say -- for value-Beaujolais, this hit the spot at <$20 at Costco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    I wish i could drink Jura and cru Beaujolais reds like...4x a week and still have a pocketbook.

    Will say -- for value-Beaujolais, this hit the spot at <$20 at Costco.

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    I have this one on deck!

    https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=3950397

    ETA: no luck finding that one in Quebec. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
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    Mmmmm how was it?

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    The pandemic and interesting allocation/demographic situation in Baltimore, as well as help from some friends, has allowed us to expand our palates over the last year.

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    Friends of ours own a killer little bistro that they pivoted into a speciality grocer and bottle shop. They were the ones that convinced me there was more complexity in a bottle of wine than you could ever find in a cocktail. It's worth listening when they say something shouldn't be missed. This bottle shifted my perspective in a big way. Ulli Stein is well worth a read on his own.

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    We're still new to wine so I approach importers like I did record labels in my teens. The blue label is 70 y/o Elbling from the Mosel. Far left is a producer that sources fruit from old vines/trees on Long Island, lots of fun.

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    I thought I would try some northern France as well. Two bottles on the left are Haut-Rhin, I have liked everything from Binner I have tried. The four on the right are Bas-Rhin. I have yet to find a Riesling that I like from Alsace, there is an off-note at the end that I still cannot identify. The skin contact Gewürztraminer to the right was a fucking party.

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    I love acidity in all things but wanted to learn what a bit of sugar can do as well. Still excellent minerality.

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    Wife's birthday at home. The left bottle is Instagram candy, it was good with the oyster and killer with the lobster tail. Anders Steen was the original som for Noma, again someone to read about if you're interested. Right is 2019 bottling from 120 y/o Riesling vines. Occasionally I feel guilt over opening some of these bottles so young but it's hard to get them to set aside without knowing. For sure the best Riesling we've tasted so far. We have another for an anniversary in the future.

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    Wife's birthday at the Dabney. I really enjoy these bottles of Cru/GG grapes that don't make the cut.

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    Dry Gewürztraminer from S. Alsace. Best bottle we had this spring.

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    And some domestic action for this thread. A local shop downtown that mostly sells value wines had a case of these half bottles stashed in the back. After trying one we bought the whole case, they have been killer picnic wine this summer.

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    Last photo. Pre-pandemic, I would pull a shift or two behind the bar at a big name restaurant for some extra cash. This was the owner's gift to the staff before Christmas 2019. I didn't get it then and still wouldn't fully appreciate it now but found the Potel my preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Mmmmm how was it?
    Deelish. More carmel than botrytis bite, softer than the '83. I hoarded this one for myself and wife.
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    Love that you're still crushing 80s Doisy Daene, buster! That's what winning looks like right there, kids.
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    I like Climens a lot, but DD, Raymond Lafon and de Fargues have been better values.
    I'll buy Guiraud and Lafaurie-Peyraguey if I can find a good deal.

    But someone at Suduiraut has gone nuts with the orange peel candy machine.
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    Picked up half a case of shiners from Last Bottle, 2015 Pinot from the Santa Maria Valley, $16 a bottle shipped. Often shiners have been recorked to protect the identity but not these. Turns out it is Grevino’s Estate Pinot. Wish I’d bought a case or two.


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    Cracked a couple last night that had been sitting awhile. Set up well. Click image for larger version. 

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    Fun stuff, Art. Two of my favorite valleys and I'd be curious to know the general thoughts on both bottles given the same year (yes I'm aware of the million other variables before the pedants get in)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BmillsSkier View Post
    Fun stuff, Art. Two of my favorite valleys and I'd be curious to know the general thoughts on both bottles given the same year (yes I'm aware of the million other variables before the pedants get in)
    Both were cellared for about 15 years on their side and my plan was to maybe just drink the Clos Pegase with dinner. Once I assessed it, the cork gave me some worry and disintegrated a bit much so I was expecting some vinegary oxidation but it actually opened up really well. Smooth and way more mellow that I expected so it went down during meal prep.

    I thought the Clos Pegase would show up the Forgeron but I actually enjoyed the Merlot more which was surprising (I’m not drinking any fucking Merlot!). Fruits, spicy, chewier. Held up against a big hunk of meat really well. There was just enough left when the kiddo whipped up some cookies and last bit of wine with chocolate was perfect.

    Hunk of meat for reference

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    laguioles, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    laguioles, eh?
    Spotted the bee I see

    Buster, ever crack into any of Andrew Will’s offerings? Now that I’ve marooned myself on his rock, I’m getting into them more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PB View Post
    Have to acknowledge that subsequent Cakebread merlots have not come close; must slurp the Pahlmeyer merlot.

    Cab: Ridge Monte Bello, pretty much any vintage
    Zin: Ridge Geyserville 2009
    Have a couple of these patiently waiting in the cellar, along with a few Lytton Springs Syrah and Monte Bellos.... When we are in the mood for big reds, Ridge is a long time favorite. Click image for larger version. 

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    paging neufox47, Buster and other sauternes, dessert wine buffs to the Dentist Wine Hotline... cellaring guidance please for a Huet Cuvee Constance?Click image for larger version. 

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