Wine Geekery

[chaka]

Everyday summer bottles:
White: Santa Margarita Pinot Grigio
Rose: Tavel
Red Burgundy: Les Granges des Papes Chateauneuf du pape
Claret: Krug

All good. All in the $20s

good list.
Red burgundy? Chateauneuf du Pape = Rhone varietals... Grenache, Syrah... plus, red burgundy and "in the $20s" rarely come together in a sentence

[neufox47]

Surprised nobody has mentioned WTSO yet.

It’s an app… wines til they sell out.

You can get some pretty fantastic stuff drastically discounted. Although drastically discounted doesn’t always mean cheap.

They’ve been hit or miss for me. Although they have a 2011 Cabernet from Clarendon Hills that is super tempting right now.

[Cruiser]

^^^ Just be reminded that Clarendon Hills doesn't follow the typical Aussie model insofar as they endeavor to prioritize the expression of terroir over the intensity of ripeness which often has the effect of being somewhat less than satisfying to folks who aren't aware and are expecting the typical Barossa fruit bomb.

[retirwntm]

A lot of Biale, Von Strasser and Sullivan wines these days from a trip to Napa a few years back.

Most of these vineyards were small boutique more around St. Helena and Silverado Trail. Lots of damage from the forest fires. The place we stayed called the Black Rock Inn was burned to the ground. The owner had a fantastic wine cave and was not stingy with the best wines.





For summer, lots of whites: Vouvray from a few different labels.

Really like this label - Teutonic in Portlandia huge shout out to Barnaby.

Lots of good whites and a few roses all day.


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[splat]

I'm definitely not in the dentist category. I've got 3 little kids that I have to keep in skis and somehow figure out how to put through college. But, see my comment up thread about the sub $5 bottle of Portuguese wine at Costco. So cheap, simple and really easy to drink.

Also, I tend to find the cheaper Côtes du Rhone wines make a consistently good every day wine. Normally if I'm looking for a bottle to drink that night for any given weeknight at home, I just go to the French section and look for a Rhone wine in the sub $13 range. That's one thing that you get from all of the regulations in France around appelation de origine côntrolée. Sure, winemakers might have less room to innovate if they want the marketing advantages of the AoC but it also means that wines within an AoC will usually have similar characteristics. Once you figure out what you generally enjoy, you can just look for cheap options within that AoC.

I love going to the supermarché in France and picking up a bottle of Côtes du Rhone for a few Euros. Always a good choice.

[alpinevibes]

But wines that are just mousy to be mousy and get by on cool to excuse poor wine making -- can fuck right off. But if you're into this sorta thing -- you should go to Barcelona. There are a bunch of straight up natty wine bars crawling with gorgeous, young Catalan women chugging goblets of glou-glou. And I am into that.

Agreed, we’ve had hit-or-miss luck with bio/natural wines of nascent standing. Maybe our price point is too low but it just hasn’t landed in most cases.

I’ll still buy obscure wines when we come across them, but there’s often more of a nostalgia/story bias to liking the wine vs it being that great. Albania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Turkey, even Mallorca - you can find some real interesting stuff.

We’ve had some good bottles from Corsica and Puglia this year and have been increasingly into Priorat.
South African Chenin is a go-to summer white, mostly Ken Forrester

[doebedoe]

Agreed, we’ve had hit-or-miss luck with bio/natural wines of nascent standing. Maybe our price point is too low but it just hasn’t landed in most cases.

I’ll still buy obscure wines when we come across them, but there’s often more of a nostalgia/story bias to liking the wine vs it being that great. Albania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Turkey, even Mallorca - you can find some real interesting stuff.

We’ve had some good bottles from Corsica and Puglia this year and have been increasingly into Priorat.
South African Chenin is a go-to summer white, mostly Ken Forrester

Many of the great and classic producers are "natural" wine makers in the sense that they are using only indigenous yeasts, organic/biodynamic farming, hand harvested, no additives except maybe a touch of SO2 (and even many famous "natural" wine makers use a touch of SO2 they just don't talk about it.)

And I agree -- wine for me is about stories and getting drunk with people I like. And it's about it being delicious. I'm basically a lush who skis/runs/works so I don't feel as bad about it.

One of my bucket list is a dinner at the Little Nell where I drink whatever the somm tells me to.

[Buster Highmen]

Crisp, Frenchy chardonnay:
Paul Pernot, $30
https://www.wine-searcher.com/mercha..._id_F=28910897
Jean Marc Boillot (house favorite) $24
https://www.bassins.com/wine_detail.php?id=84707
T&P Matrot: $22
https://www.wineworksonline.com/wine...018-w6386177z7

Less expensive red burgundy, more tannic than lots of Americans like
Frederic Esmonin: $16, grittier than most Cali pinot
https://www.winemadeeasy.com/frederi...-ml-53376.html
Nicolas Potel: $17
https://www.saratogawine.com/Nicolas...018-750ml.html
Maison Roche de Bellene Bourgogne Rouge: $17
https://www.empirewine.com/wine/mais...e-2018-i38453/
Albert Bichot Bourgogne Pinot Noir" $17
https://www.winesliquorwarehouse.com...es-vignes-2018
Antonin Rodet Bourgogne Pinot Noir: $18
https://www.woodswholesalewine.com/p...y-france-750ml
Digioia Royer Bourgogne Rouge (House favorite): $19
https://vinsrare.com/2008-digioia-ro...wine-2846.html
Digioia Royer Hautes Cotes des Nuits: $28
https://vinsrare.com/2009-digioia-ro...wine-2994.html

Others from bigger producers like Jadot, Faiveley, etc are out there and good value.

[Buster Highmen]

OK, I found a very interesting opportunity.

If I posted a link to some 20 year old red burgundy for $50 is anyone interested?

I got a case of the premier cru from this source a couple of months ago. I think it's RFT.

I make nothing on this, it's just a tip for the consortium of k00ks.

[rod9301]

I probably bought 100 cases from wtso.com on the last few years.

Great value, free shipping, and somehow i like all the wines i bought there.

When you buy online, what's the shipping cost?

I wanted to buy a case recently from someone else than wtso and i was amazed how expensive shipping was



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[alpinevibes]

OK, I found a very interesting opportunity.

If I posted a link to some 20 year old red burgundy for $50 is anyone interested?

I got a case of the premier cru from this source a couple of months ago. I think it's RFT.

I make nothing on this, it's just a tip for the consortium of k00ks.

My arm could be twisted for a bottle or two

[Buster Highmen]

My arm could be twisted for a bottle or two

Charles Noellats 2002 premier crus are very, very tasty.

There are 30 of these 2001 village bottles as of today:
https://www.klwines.com/p/i?i=152079...9971-137379585

(edit: someone bought it all by 8:30 Pacific.)

Come visit us down South of you sometime.

[neufox47]

Charles Noellats 2002 premier crus are very, very tasty.

There are 30 of these 2001 village bottles as of today:
https://www.klwines.com/p/i?i=152079...9971-137379585

(edit: someone bought it all by 8:30 Pacific.)

Come visit us down South of you sometime.

Damnit, i was too slow. Thanks for the link though.

[neufox47]

^^^ Just be reminded that Clarendon Hills doesn't follow the typical Aussie model insofar as they endeavor to prioritize the expression of terroir over the intensity of ripeness which often has the effect of being somewhat less than satisfying to folks who aren't aware and are expecting the typical Barossa fruit bomb.

Solid intel on Clarendon Hills. Part of why I like them. Don’t get me wrong, I’m cool with a fruit bomb too but prefer the balance.

[alpinevibes]

Charles Noellats 2002 premier crus are very, very tasty.

There are 30 of these 2001 village bottles as of today:
https://www.klwines.com/p/i?i=152079...9971-137379585

(edit: someone bought it all by 8:30 Pacific.)

Come visit us down South of you sometime.

Fack, missed it too.

We do need to get to Silverton in the non-ATV season. We’ll be up in SEA on Wednesday but it’s my brothers wedding and family time all week

[abraham]

Fack, missed it too.

We do need to get to Silverton in the non-ATV season. We’ll be up in SEA on Wednesday but it’s my brothers wedding and family time all week

Uhh, is it a camping type wedding?

[Buster Highmen]

We do need to get to Silverton in the non-ATV season. We’ll be up in SEA on Wednesday but it’s my brothers wedding and family time all week

FYI: Sliverton town council (re)banned ATVs in town as of June.

[skaredshtles]

This is a tasty, nicely priced Italian:

[alpinevibes]

Uhh, is it a camping type wedding?

Negative, just a daytime shindig in Mukilteo.

But we did a camping-style party for our wedding 10 years ago. My brother (who's now getting married) had shotguneed a few IPA's from one of these: https://www.drinkstuff.com/products/product.asp?ID=7275 and was then drunkingly ushered into the wrong tent. It happened to have a friend's wife who'd been married two weeks before asleep in it; she was not pleased. But the camping and wedding combo was a hit, even if it kept the band from catching the last Bainbridge-Seattle ferry of the night...

[doebedoe]

Uhh, is it a camping type wedding?

Camping wedding wine stoke.



Since we cancelled our larger celebration we got to just spend a good chunk of change on good wine. When we woke up in the morning we remember to write down what the 4 of us drank that night...

- Sanger Terroir Natal Champagne N.V.
- 2019 Cour-Cheverny from Francois Cazin
- 2014 Guiberteau Les Moulins
- 2015 ArPePe Rosso magnum
- 2012 Lignier-Michelot Bourgogne
- 2013 La Torre Brunello di Montalcino
- Crooked Stave Nightmare on Brett
- 2005 Vouvray "Cuvee Botrytis" from Francois Pinon

[skaredshtles]

- 2013 La Torre Brunello di Montalcino

How was this one?

[retirwntm]

Piñon Vouray

https://youtu.be/0wALArd2rvo


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[doebedoe]

How was this one?

I haven't drunk a ton of Brunello so I dont have a lot of direct comparisons -- but it was pretty damn killer with some truffle risotto. Probably a bit young still.

Piñon Vouray

https://youtu.be/0wALArd2rvo

Francois was the fucking man. RIP. He was my first winery on a wine-bike tour. We sat on his patio and drank for a couple hours through all his cuvees and a few bottles going back to the 80s. We've got a 1990 Moelleux of his from that trip that needs drinking. His son is now in charge making great wine.

[schindlerpiste]

This is a tasty, nicely priced Italian:

2nd. I drink this a lot


....and you can find vg brunellos for much less than $90/bottle. Banfi, Villa Poggia and Ciacci Piccolomini d’Aragona are examples of excellent $50 burnello

[retirwntm]

I haven't drunk a ton of Brunello so I dont have a lot of direct comparisons -- but it was pretty damn killer with some truffle risotto. Probably a bit young still.



Francois was the fucking man. RIP. He was my first winery on a wine-bike tour. We sat on his patio and drank for a couple hours through all his cuvees and a few bottles going back to the 80s. We've got a 1990 Moelleux of his from that trip that needs drinking. His son is now in charge making great wine.

That is awesome!


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