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  1. #26
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    FWIW, I've found the 7iDP Transition kneepads to be both quite comfortable/breathable and durable. Definitely much better than any other lightweight pad I've tried so far.

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    I've been really happy with my Leatt pull on kneepads. They're light and ventilated enough to use and ignore on long rides, plus they have medial and lateral protection instead of just a pad out front. They'd held up for 2 solid seasons so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    I can't say whether it's just the industry designers being stupid, or just trying to rake in money by making them a consumable. My gut tells me both. .
    Just cuz someone has designed a mtn bike pad or any piece of gear for that matter doesnt mean they actualy mtn bike or do that sport, what you can be sure of its somebody did tell them to do the design

    but i don't believe the 911 conspiracys either
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  4. #29
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    They all suck, every single one of them. Just find one that fits your legs the best and is the least annoying to ride with.

  5. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrenalated View Post
    FWIW, I've found the 7iDP Transition kneepads to be both quite comfortable/breathable and durable. Definitely much better than any other lightweight pad I've tried so far.
    I have the 7iDP Sam Hill pads which are similar to the Transitions with a little more padding. I generally hate riding with pads but these stay up and are pretty comfortable to pedal in.

  6. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by teledad View Post
    I have the 7iDP Sam Hill pads which are similar to the Transitions with a little more padding. I generally hate riding with pads but these stay up and are pretty comfortable to pedal in.
    Those look really, really hot ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridinshockgun View Post
    Those look really, really hot ?
    Not particularly. Aside from the padded area, the fabric is thin lycra that breathes pretty well.

  8. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    is ^^ also liquid ureathane, its a thinner version of AQS/ shoo goo/ freesole

    for a knee pad that needs to take a shit kicking I wouldn't have designed them with a thin covering of fabric so looking at how a pad is made is also important
    I was just about to repair them when I felt like I needed to return. Ideally they would repair them like Patagonia, but thats unlikely. I hate waste, so I've started the warranty process to see their response.

    Now these are my 3rd or 4th pair of Fox pads and this new design is taller and fits better, but this thin "sock" covering is not going to last without reinforcement.

  9. #34
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    Kneepad summary
    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Don't get the Roams. Here are my notes on pads. (when I say something will slide down in a crash, I mean the type of crash where your knees are bent 90deg+ and you land on them facing forward)

    Enduro+/DH pads (>240g ea):

    RF Roam L 277g ea (on/off without removing shoes, moderate impact absorption doesn’t match its weight, will not stay up in a reverse crash, mediocre side coverage, good pedal)

    Dakine Mayhem L 250g ea (amazing absorption (best of all of these) and coverage, pedals well, hot, will slip down in a crash)

    Leatt Enduro L/XL 272g ea (awesome impact absorption and slide, great above the knee coverage, vented, some slide down in crash, poor pedal)

    If you are riding park/shuttle, I'd pick those Fox Launch Pro D30. 314g ea. I haven't tried them but I assume they are about as good as you can get for DH level protection unless you go to full coverage knee/shin guards like IXS Cleavers. I've had some older Fox knee pads. Super stable. I bet these have awesome protection. Personally I have the POC Bone VPD Leg guards for riding park which they no longer make.


    Enduro/AM pads (180-240g):

    Leatt 3DF 6.0 L/XL (230g) would be good enduro choices that are still amazingly protective, ventilate and pedal well. I just bought a set of the 3DF 6.0 I think I could pedal all day in those if it wasn't too hot out. Great side coverage and sliders. The are unbelievably stable and will not slip down in a crash.

    TLD Raid L/XL (217g) very similar to the Leatt 3DF 6.0 but I thought the 6.0 might pedal a tiny bit nicer, and the 6.0 has split plastic sliders which I feel help dissipate energy (and make the pad last) would be a great one-pad-choice

    7idp Project M 220g (B2) (I don’t think these pedal great distances without discomfort (but my friend races enduro in them and loves em), good protection but not raid/dbx6 level?... all over the knee, little side/shin coverage. stable.)

    POC VPD System Light M 213g (well vented, but poor stability and shit absorption while being stupid expensive)

    Leatt 3DF 5.0 L (200g) amazing impact absorption, stable but maybe a little less stable than the 6.0, little less side coverage


    AM/XC pads: (<180g)

    7idp Sam hill med 160g B2 (awesome coverage, so much so that it seems like it could be pretty warm for long rides though it pedals well, Seems stable, but nowhere near the direct impact of the heavier the raid or 6.0)

    Ion Traze L 160g A1 (fits about equal L/M (maybe go L), less coverage but better venting than Sam Hill with similar impact absorption, great stability, pedals well, built like a KG with flexible molded plastic over gelfoam)

    POC System VPD M 175g B2 Similar coverage to the Traze, might slip in just the right crash. Direct impact absorption actually better than 3DF 6.0 for certain impacts (flat surfaces, not pointy things, on level of Leatt Enduro) they were definitely not going to slip down just pedalling but I worried about being able to pedal 30mi in these comfortwise.

    TLD KGL med 143g (good impact protection but doesn’t stay in palce at all in a slide)

    TLD KGS med 120 (good impact protection but doesn’t stay in place at all in a slide)

    I have the TLD KGLs, mostly held together by duct tape. I think I will replace with an Ion Traze. I wish I could try on some IXS Carve Evo+ as I'm super impressed by their elbow pads.
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridinshockgun View Post
    Those look really, really hot ?
    They're pretty warm. Only the main cup is reactive gel, the surrounding padding ring is just normal foam. They're fine for direct hits, but the sock tears in slides/OTB to hands & knees (first hand experience). 7iDP does have a crash replacement discount if you ask, so I got a second pair, but those ones rubbed above the knee where the originals didn't so I sold them.

    A similar design is the Chromag Rift, which have even more coverage on the sides than the Sam Hills, but maybe 1/2" less on the shin. Probably even better in direct hit, as they have a thin layer of foam underneath the reactive gel. Also fairly warm. I haven't had any serious spills in them, so can't testify to the sock durability.

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    I'm a MTB jong at this point, but after realizing that I don't bounce as well as I do when I was riding 20 years ago, and some of the stuff I'm riding is faster (modern flow trails), I decided that knee pads were a good idea. I went with the Leatt Airflex Hybrid, in part because I've got some of their stuff for moto use and been happy with it; I've got a few trail rides and one bike park day on them so far, and I'm pretty happy with that decision. Once I realized they needed to go under the bottom of my spandex, not over the top of it, they've stayed put pretty well; fortunately, I haven't had any chances to put their impact resistance to the test yet.

    ETA: as noted elsewhere, consulting the size chart is important. They are the only XL-sized gear that I own, and they do seem to fit true to the size chart.

    Of course, I decided that I didn't need to put them on to take the dog for a pedal-assisted, leashed walk on logging roads and then found a pile of sand at an intersection, tucked the front, and scraped up my knee--but hey, that's Murphy's law, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
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    Nice write-up.

    I think it cannot be overstated about crash protection with "slide down". I've had pads that have slid down when I hit the bars or whatever and my knee hit the ground bare with the pad on my shin. That is annoying!

    My Leatt's 3DF Hybrid and Fox D30 appear to reduce the slip from happening.

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    thats ^^ why you need to try a bunch of brands on to find the one thats fits you and you also need to try different sizes of whatever you decide on
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    5-6 weeks later and I'm finally getting to the bottom of this one. Fox credited the retailer which in turn gave me a store credit and I'm keeping the pads. So home repair time...which is cool. Took a while, but it worked out.

  15. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by teledad View Post
    I have the 7iDP Sam Hill pads which are similar to the Transitions with a little more padding. I generally hate riding with pads but these stay up and are pretty comfortable to pedal in.
    I have a pair of these as well and I like them a lot. Granted I only wear them at the bike park since so can't comment too much on heat, but I've taken a couple decently high speed crashes on very rocky tech trails and they fully protected me
    Quote Originally Posted by other grskier View Post
    well, in the three years i've been skiing i bet i can ski most anything those 'pro's' i listed can, probably

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  17. #42
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    I don't plug our products often, but I truly like our PEARL iZUMi Elevate knee pads more than others I've used in the market.

    The D30 LP1 pad is used by some other brands and offers really solid protection. I've crashed at least half dozen times this year and at least 3 of them should have been ride-enders and I honestly haven't felt a thing.

    The Elevates also have a good mesh portion over the perforations in the pad: Some see theses as less durable however I haven't ripped mine despite planting my knee straight into rocks. It also allows a noticeable amount of air to flow through.

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