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    Hickory may be back soon


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    Hope this works out, in for a T-shirt at least.
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    It wonít work for the same reason it wouldnít work before. Hickory is in a area of extremely low snow. They get way less than 120 inches a year. They have no access to water for snow making and they have no infrastructure for snow making. They also have no money to install snowmaking infrastructure. The town is not going to give them any money. This is going to be more about snowmobiling for the couple of weeks they have enough snow for that and summertime operations.

    If you donít believe me, listen to what the the Ski Areas of NY president has to say about itÖ

    https://www.stormskiing.com/p/podcas...2qyFVdCJlSdRg8



    I wish it werenít the case, but it is. The fucking skiing there is awesome.

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    120 inches is being generous. That's like what Gore gets. Probably more like 60-80 inches most years at Hickory. But they have the world beat in basically slopeside access to some of the best cheese in the land at Oscar's.
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    And bacon!

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    Those numbers are correct. Gore's average over the last ten years is 120 inches, they've hit their advertised total of 150 maybe 5 times. Hickory advertised 80 inches but it's probably more like 60. It's not a dry spot just very low elevation.

    BVP4 (the owner) did have access to water. A permit to draw from the Hudson and an easement to pass through the land - 1000 feet, one landowner - between him and the Hudson. He had a proposal in hand for snowmaking from the top on two trails.

    The fact is that if Hickory opened every weekend and holidays in a season and every poma disc had a butt in it, it still couldn't break even. Every thing required to make Hickory work would turn it into something it isn't. It would just be a low elevation small ski area that doesn't get much snow.

    He's successful guy and didn't get there by throwing millions at a long shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    And bacon!
    “Come to hickory. We have pocket bacon. But no snow”

    That’s a winning slogan right there!
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    For me it's an inspiring place to be. The picnic was cool.



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    I canít see it working.

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    They can just drive a little south of Syracuse and join the huge crowds at Song or Labrador !
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfelot View Post
    I can’t see it working.
    Financially viable, probably not. Owner may have a different definition of constitutes "working." TBD.

    A few more pics:

    https://nyskiblog.com/hickory-ski-center-hike/

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    Powder mountain out in Utah is not operated seeking profit. So, I guess, Hickory needs an owner like that. Of course, Hickory ain't Powder.

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    Powder mountain most definitely is seeking profit, just not through skiing. They are making their nut selling "experiences", networking events, and real estate to tech bros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    . So, I guess, Hickory needs an owner like that. Of course, Hickory ain't Powder.
    Powder is barely Powder anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    Powder mountain most definitely is seeking profit, just not through skiing. They are making their nut selling "experiences", networking events, and real estate to tech bros.
    I would think that literally limiting revenue by capping ticket and pass sales is not seeking profit. Maybe they have a lot of tech bros buying cat and guide services, but, doubt there's a whole lot of money in that. And the real estate is sweet, but, there really isn't much of it.

    Nice mountain, though.

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    At 2 million a lot and $1000 a square foot to build, maybe you donít have to have much of it? But it seems like they are building out plenty of it.


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    Still has a ton of vacant lots.
    I think you be crazy to pay $5mil for a skin in/out home on Powmow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredhead View Post
    Still has a ton of vacant lots.
    I think you be crazy to pay $5mil for a skin in/out home on Powmow.
    I think you'd be crazy to pay a fifth of that for ski in ski out at powmow. I can probably name 5 places I'd rather live for a million (maybe not ski in and out), for 5 mill I could fill a page.

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    Enough with the Powder Mountain rambling. For better or worse, it's a go.


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    FKNA!
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    This is going to be an on going soap opera. Will it crash? Will it burn? Will it reach the fucking stars, who knows?

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    Will it snow?

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    Definitely not. Unfortunately, that is the one, and only thing that is certain… Place your bets accordingly.

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