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05-26-2021, 05:12 PM #26
Spondylolysis/Spondylolisthesis? (lower back pain)
Good luck to those going through severe back issues.
quoting for truth, IME. I do not believe my back "issues" are nearly as severe as the OP or others in this thread, but the last severe episode that I had, i visited my GP, who is also a practicing DO (i.e. residency in osteopathic medicine). he sent me to a local physiatrist. By the time I had an appt with the physiatrist, my pain had gone away. we had a consultation and get-to-know you session. following his consultation advice, for me, has worked well for several years (consistent exercise, kelley starett-prescribed running/stretching, posture). I have since used that same physiatrist to recover from a broken foot and related knee issue . The knee/foot issue also introduced me to one of his PTs. Something that has been important to me about the physiatrist and the PT is that they are both athletes, parents, and skiers (one grew up in Olympic Valley and the other in Bishop).
When I was in HS, i got really into mogul skiing. by the time i was in my late teens, i would often have a pretty sore back after a day of bashing bumps, and I had one episode of descending the hill on a backboard after a big huck to flat hardpack landing ass-first (i shit my pants on impact and couldn't sit normally for a few months), which I believe did some undiagnosed damage. i started tele skiing out of curiosity when i was 20, and i've been a full time tele skier for the past 23 seasons. there's a lot more available leg suspension/movement in a tele turn compared to an alpine turn. I still bash bumps and zipperline but on tele skis, and i do not experience the back pain issues. It's something to consider if you need to be easier on your back and still want to ski.Last edited by bodywhomper; 05-27-2021 at 12:45 AM.
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05-26-2021, 10:02 PM #27
My right leg nerve pain went chronic this month. Excruciating stabbing and aching deep in the leg. Sensitive to touch the skin.
The offender, from Friday’s MRI:
L3-4: Trace retrolisthesis. Likely right paramedian disc extrusion with inferior migration of disc material with stenosis of the right lateral recess. Ligamentum flavum hypertrophy. Facet arthropathy. Mild to moderate spinal canal stenosis. Moderate bilateral neuroforaminal stenosis.
I am pretty much immobilized, curling up on the couch when the pills are wearing down. This sucks.
I have been referred to UCSF, but haven’t heard anything yet. I don’t see therapy as an option for a blown out disc that is squeezing my cord.
Damn.
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05-26-2021, 10:17 PM #28
I hope they get you in soon...sounds shitty
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05-26-2021, 10:32 PM #29
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05-27-2021, 12:27 AM #30
Spondylolysis/Spondylolisthesis? (lower back pain)
I’ve been dealing with back issues similar to many of you.
Compression fracture in L5 after a bad landing off a cliff while skiing in 2004 at 21. A few months of rest and PT followed by my last year of college and an internship at a law firm definitely put me into untrained shape. Next season a fairly “normal” fall caused me to herniate my L5/S1 disc.
This has basically been haunting me ever since. Every few years I’ll get busy at work, sit too much, move too little and I’ll end up tweaking it doing something silly like moving a box or playing Wii bowling (not a joke) and I’ll be laid up for two months while it calms down.
I’m 38 now and hoping to avoid the knife as long as I can although I feel like it’s in my future.
A couple things that helped me: get really flexible in your hips. Lots of time spent talking about hamstring stretching but tight hip flexors and a tight groin are just as bad for me.
My most recent PT also talked a lot about the atrophy of the small stabilizers in my back that big core workout movements had missed. So he gave me a list of small movements and how to isolate those tiny stabilizers. Did a world of difference for me.
Good luck ZZZ. It’s going to suck but I think you’ll get back to a semblance of normal as long as you trust the process and make sure not to rush anything. And switch to wheeled luggage for travel if you haven’t already.
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05-27-2021, 05:01 PM #31
FWIW oral prednisone did nothing for my spinal stenosis. Epidural helped a lot. Even if oral prednisone works for you I wouldn't expect it to work quickly enough to turn an evacuation into a walk out. And BTW, don't take it longer than 2 weeks at a time.
Re getting in to the PT--see if your PMR can give you a link or a name of exercises to see online until you can get in. There are specific exercises for specific back conditions.
There is hope for back problems, at least sometimes. I was diagnosed with severe spinal stenosis L4-5 and spondylolisthesis 5-6 years ago, taking Naprosyn and Tylenol around the clock, toes numb, sometimes couldn't walk a 1/4 mile due to pain. I did some PT, had several ESI's, the last a couple of years ago. Currently my pain is zero to mild on no meds. Toes are still numb. Even when I was relatively good I used to have to hike with trekking poles to avoid hard steps down. Not any more. I was on the verge of having back surgery until heart surgery got in the way. (minimally invasive laminotomy, no fusion). I know the problems could come back.
Unless your xrays show an unstable spine the decision for surgery is generally based on the symptoms, not how bad the xray is described.
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06-07-2021, 03:03 PM #32User
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So the 6 days of prednisone helped quite a bit. Still hurts and I still know that I am limited, but at least I can tie my own shoes now without debilitating pain. Yesterday may be the first day I didn't take naproxen/ibuprofen or tylenol for pain in maybe three weeks? That seems like progress. I'm doing a bunch of different stretches and exercises that I found on google a few times a day, which also seems to be helping.
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06-07-2021, 04:25 PM #33Registered User
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06-23-2021, 12:30 PM #34
I saw Dr X this morning. He checked out that MRI, compared to 09/2019 x-rays, had me get 2 more x-rays from the side showing flexion and extension. He also did a number of leg strength comparison tests, left vs. right, checked reflexes, and questioned me about activities. His bottom line was that if I'm still doing what I do, he's sees no purpose for surgery at this time. "My cure is worse than your disease". He provided a web portal for me to contact him should things change and I feel compelled. Suggested that if Aleve is taking care of any issues, an epidermal injection might be worth doing but since I only take Aleve once in a while, probably not at that point. He just added that I should try and maybe step up my core exercises a bit to help but, all in all, not in too bad of condition and my activity level is very high and not diminished by this so stay the course. Yay!
I can't say it doesn't bother me a bit to think I'll be living with this annoying discomfort but it's pretty manageable so better that I can still do what I like to do and deal with it than to have the surgery and not do as well. I'm pretty happy with his advice.
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06-30-2021, 10:09 AM #35User
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Good news, glad to hear you aren't going to have to go under the knife for now.
And I'm the same as you regarding it bothering me to live with the discomfort. But, I have to remind myself that I was doing it for four years at a fairly high level of activity. So I really think what's bothering me now is knowing that it is broken. It somehow makes me feel vulnerable and weaker.
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06-30-2021, 10:29 AM #36
Yeah, same here. I've been fortunate to mostly avoid injuries outside of a few broken bones (fingers, thumbs, ribs), meniscus tear, miscellaneous relatively minor injuries that I always knew would heal. With this, there's no healing, no getting it back to where it was earlier in my life. That's the depressing part but, I'll still do what I do until I can't. I've been pretty lucky to this point so really can't complain. Time marches on...
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07-02-2021, 08:27 PM #37
Lumbar Laminectomy with Foraminotomy / Discectomy.
Done by their top dog neurosurgeon.
And I walk out 23 hours later.
That’s the plan for July 15.
Fuck this pain.
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07-02-2021, 10:17 PM #38
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07-04-2021, 02:07 PM #39
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07-04-2021, 04:28 PM #40
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07-04-2021, 09:29 PM #41
Make sure to give the surgeon a treat if they do a good job.
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11-07-2021, 06:53 PM #42
Yesterday I had my dura sewn closed.
We tried to see if the CSF leak would seal on its own. Nope. Nonstop headaches.
The new surgeon found a half inch tear at the laminectomy location.
So, I start the whole healing process again. No lifting over 5-15 lbs for 6 weeks, then begin therapy.
I may get to ski by March…
Right now I just want to get out of this bed and go to the bathroom. Soon.
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11-08-2021, 04:35 PM #43User
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11-09-2021, 09:51 AM #44
Man, that sucks. Hoping for a late season for you.
CSF leak headaches are the worst.
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