whats gotten much worse over the years?

**Mazderati** · 05-11-2021, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Just Looking

People. Lots more cunts, morons, idiots, self entitled douches and generally incompetent muther fathers, I'll stop there for the moment; but people.

**Marshall Tucker** · 05-11-2021, 06:44 AM

Concerts. I mean, have you seen what the rolling stones look like now?

**I Skied Bandini Mountain** · 05-11-2021, 06:45 AM

Strawberries.

**Meadow Skipper** · 05-11-2021, 06:46 AM

Snow, wildfires, and peaches.

**Timberridge** · 05-11-2021, 06:46 AM

Your mom's snatch and Cam Newton.

**AEV** · 05-11-2021, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by riser3

Republicans, Libertarians, conservatives, all have become whiny cunts.

The amount of mags that inject poly ass into the padded room

**BmillsSkier** · 05-11-2021, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

peaches.

Blasphemy.

We are living in peak Peach.

**Meadow Skipper** · 05-11-2021, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

Blasphemy.

We are living in peak Peach.

I should come visit you. It’s been years since I’ve had a peach that compares to the wonderful smooth-textured juicy sweet ones I had as a kid.

**Mofro261** · 05-11-2021, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

Personal Freedoms.

Critical thinking skills?

Maybe name a few freedoms you no longer have,

**Powder Ho** · 05-11-2021, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

I should come visit you. It’s been years since I’ve had a peach that compares to the wonderful smooth-textured juicy sweet ones I had as a kid.

Are you really talking about peaches or is this a metaphorical reference?

**Meadow Skipper** · 05-11-2021, 07:38 AM

^ heh.

**Lostintime** · 05-11-2021, 07:39 AM

[QUOTE=Mofro261;6313804]Critical thinking skills?

^^^This. Beat me to it! The ability to look beyond everything being a binary decision.

**stealurface831** · 05-11-2021, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Powder Ho

Are you really talking about peaches or is this a metaphorical reference?

i would think that, if anything, asses have improved over the years, no?

**SKIP IN7RO** · 05-11-2021, 07:43 AM

^due to yoga pants

**schindlerpiste** · 05-11-2021, 07:43 AM

Isn’t it obvious:
Warrantless wiretapping
Increased surveillance
ThePatriot Act abuses
Government secrecy
Ability to travel freely

I assume when you use the word “you” you were just talking in the second person. Perhaps none of these affect me individually, but it has certainly taken it’s toll on society

**MontuckyFried** · 05-11-2021, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Mofro261

Maybe name a few freedoms you no longer have,

Freedom from work. I'm big brothered at work big time these days. Now clients can monitor our progress in real time. Oh joy!

Freedom from the old ball and chains, ie cell phones. Now it's become an EXPECTATION with significant others everywhere that you must remain totally accessible 24/7. Same goes for work too, whether it be bosses or customers. Didn't respond to an e-mail at 11:45 on a Saturday night? "WhY HaveN'T yOu ResPONDed To mY e-MailS?!"

So yeah. Personal freedoms are certainly under assault. And we did it to ourselves. Again, cell phones. And that's not even counting governmental surveillance from Federal to municipal. That's on a whole other level.

**Mofro261** · 05-11-2021, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by MontuckyFried

Freedom from work. I'm big brothered at work big time these days. Now clients can monitor our progress in real time. Oh joy!

Freedom from the old ball and chains, ie cell phones. Now it's become an EXPECTATION with significant others everywhere that you must remain totally accessible 24/7. Same goes for work too, whether it be bosses or customers. Didn't respond to an e-mail at 11:45 on a Saturday night? "WhY HaveN'T yOu ResPONDed To mY e-MailS?!"

So yeah. Personal freedoms are certainly under assault. And we did it to ourselves. Again, cell phones. And that's not even counting governmental surveillance from Federal to municipal. That's on a whole other level.

Bootstraps much? You always have the freedom to be the boss, the freedom to walk away and start something new, the freedom to work hard, or the freedom to be lazy. These are personal choices and no one else is restricting your freedom to change but you.

Better compared to when? Certainly not anytime 1870-1950 or after 1980 and that small window 1950-1980 seems like a lot of fighting for expansion of freedoms was occurring. What is your Utopian freedom Era that existed compared to what you believe is restriction of freedom today?

**old_newguy** · 05-11-2021, 08:15 AM

Repairability of products.

**old_newguy** · 05-11-2021, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

Isn’t it obvious:
Warrantless wiretapping
Increased surveillance
ThePatriot Act abuses
Government secrecy
Ability to travel freely

I assume when you use the word “you” you were just talking in the second person. Perhaps none of these affect me individually, but it has certainly taken it’s toll on society

I’ll agree with this. Generally doesn’t impact me, but on par government and corporate ability to snoop into peoples lives has gotten way way better and it isn’t a net positive IMO.

**schindlerpiste** · 05-11-2021, 08:27 AM

Utopian freedom period? Post Cold War to pre 9/11?

**detrusor** · 05-11-2021, 08:39 AM

I think a lot of high end consumer goods (cars, bikes, skis etc) have definitely improved.

Appliances have decreased in quality for sure. While they may work better when new they have a 5-7 year lifecspan

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**MontuckyFried** · 05-11-2021, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Mofro261

What is your Utopian freedom Era that existed compared to what you believe is restriction of freedom today?

Pre-cell/smart phone era.

And I don't care whether or not you're the boss. People these days, whether they're your boss, your clients, your customers, or your wife/girlfriend, ALL have unreasonable expectations of 24/7 connectivity and responsiveness. Again, we've done that to ourselves.