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    National park question

    Anybody been to a park recently? How are crowds? I am assuming that the scourge of the emptying tour buses are still non existent this Spring. Especially foreigners.

    The world is perfect. Appreciate the details.

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    I was in Dinosaur yesterday. I saw zero people in about 3 hours. I spend a bunch of time in Rocky Mountain. I hardly ever see people. Point being, go to the busy places, they will be busy. Avoid the busy places, they will be less busy.

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    There was already a thread for this: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...rthy-Questions
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    Fucking jam-packed. Glacier is moving to a reservation-only system for the first time ever. Yellowstone was down a tiny amount in 2020 from its record-setting 2019. The parks are not not crowded because silly Americans have nowhere else to go. It is going to be a gong show of absolutely epic proportions in the West this summer. Fuckin' yikes.

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    Check the wildlife kills thread.
    I still call it The Jake.

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    National park question

    Foggy knows the west side is the best side.

    RMNP will require timed entry starting in May, and much of the park still has sizable closures following East Troublesome and Cameron Peak. Who knows how much will open in the spring. Backcountry permits are a complete zoo. We ďwonĒ the lottery to try for a permit in late summer and the only open sites were for stock and big groups, with a few low elevation WAGbag sites here and there. Had to wait until Oct 1 to grab anything desirable (Sandbeach, stoked! )

    I'll stick with a Sand Dunes trip and some other rarely traveled wilderness again. Fine be me!
    Last edited by hatchgreenchile; 04-12-2021 at 05:23 PM.

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    Cops got called in Grand Teton NP last Saturday because people were getting way to rowdy rollerblading on the 'closed to vehicle traffic' inner park road.

    Seriously.
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    I've been to Lake Mead NRA a couple of times in the past 10 days and it's been pretty full both weekday and weekend, though it gets a lot of local visitors. I was at Death Valley maybe six weeks ago and there were a good number of people. Our first choice tent site had a line as the campground changed over for the day, but our second choice campground probably had some open spaces at the end of the day (though not that many).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RootSkier View Post
    Yellowstone was down a tiny amount in 2020 from its record-setting 2019.
    And this was without the big tour buses. So nearly the same amount of people but waaay more traffic.

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    I did a tour of Glacier, Yellowstone, and even the little spots like Craters of the Moon and John Day and all were "PACKED" for late Sept/early October. Not that you couldn't get a parking spot...but 30-40x more crowded than you would have thought for time of the year.

    For comparison I did a similar trip 10yrs ago hitting Yellowstone and Glacier and I was pretty much on my own for most hikes. Last fall it was families with kids EVERYWHERE.....same with ski resorts mid-week.

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    I live in Acadia and it will be packed this Summer. Vacation weekly housing rentals and campgrounds are all completely booked by reports from friends who rent houses or own campgrounds. Pent up Covid vacation demand and being a days drive from most of the east coast cities mean Mid-May through Sept will be a clusterfuck. We escape by boat to the outer islands for any family recreation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    Cops got called in Grand Teton NP last Saturday because people were getting way to rowdy rollerblading on the 'closed to vehicle traffic' inner park road.

    Seriously.
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    Kind of ironic that this was a picture from gaper day that made it into the local paper.. but thatís a real Sheriff and their were also state troopers on the mtn on gaper day thanks to a bunch of fucks that got too sloshed to ski to the bottom at the end of the day.

    This may come across as pretty jaded, especially from an absolute-non-local such as myself... but it seems like, at least from the old time stories Iíve heard from mags such as DJ, that Jackson has transitioned from a place that people used to move to for the sole purpose of pushing their skiing abilities, to now any shmuck moves to because itís the trendy new spot. Closing day was such a fucking gong show. Like a new low key gaper day, except the gapers were people that thought they were being rad. Sloppy tailgunning all over the mountain, DJ in the ranch lot playing shit music that was overpowering other peoplesí music at the opposite end of the lot... the list goes on.


    Thatís the first Iíve heard of the GTNP shenanigans, I guess hearing that triggered a bit of pent up frustration in me from what I have been witnessing around here all season. Just seems like a bunch of kids that graduated school but still behave like freshman. Thought I left that shit behind in Tempe, damn.

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    national parks can only be visited in the off season. I went to Moab March 1. It was great. Started watching this web cam about a week out.
    https://www.discovermoab.com/arches-webcam/ there was never a line. Note no line now as the park has stopped letting people in due to crowding. Sand Dunes was mentioned. My sister was trying to make hotel reservations in Alamosa and places were already booked for the summer. You can probably get away from the crowds but if it requires a permit good luck getting one. I thought I would float a portion of the San Juan in March before heading back to AK. By the time I looked everyday was filled until the lottery dates. I could not believe that so called the BLM office. Lady said yes things have never been this busy. If you want to visit national parks this year come to AK. No cruise ships and Canada closing border is taking the pressure off the national parks here.
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    Are there any restrictions when entering Alaska? Weíre actually thinking of flying up in June.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hikesalot View Post
    Are there any restrictions when entering Alaska? We’re actually thinking of flying up in June.
    come on up. Some towns or villages may still have some restrictions but the state just has an advisory.
    https://www.travelalaska.com/Planning/Tips/COVID19.aspx
    I just flew up and the rates are still cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
    This may come across as pretty jaded, especially from an absolute-non-local such as myself... but it seems like, at least from the old time stories Iíve heard from mags such as DJ, that Jackson has transitioned from a place that people used to move to for the sole purpose of pushing their skiing abilities, to now any shmuck moves to because itís the trendy new spot.
    Iíve been going to JH 2 times/year for 40 years and this is a fact. It was always too cold, or the skiing was too hard, the lift system sucked, or it was too hard to get to.
    Turns out, those werenít problems that needed fixing.
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    gbnp is never crowded
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    Goblin valley may be a state park, but it was busy AF this weekend with Americans.
    Skiing in the rockies is like 70's porn

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    I cannot help with the specific question; however, I have been hearing news reports that this summer Yellowstone will be concentrating on increasing band with and connectivity throughout the park. As a result, 45min to 1 hour traffic delays will be commonplace. Also camping reservations are being taken online and have filled up very quickly
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFD View Post
    come on up. Some towns or villages may still have some restrictions but the state just has an advisory.
    https://www.travelalaska.com/Planning/Tips/COVID19.aspx
    I just flew up and the rates are still cheap.
    Is Denali open this year???
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    Quote Originally Posted by schindlerpiste View Post
    I cannot help with the specific question; however, I have been hearing news reports that this summer Yellowstone will be concentrating on increasing band with and connectivity throughout the park. As a result, 45min to 1 hour traffic delays will be commonplace. Also camping reservations are being taken online and have filled up very quickly
    https://parkplanning.nps.gov/project...rojectId=89373
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    A more interesting National Parks Question:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...tribes/618395/

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    Yeah, well, furgetabout that. Although a few tribes own Grand Canyon land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by east or bust View Post
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    Kind of ironic that this was a picture from gaper day that made it into the local paper.. but thatís a real Sheriff and their were also state troopers on the mtn on gaper day thanks to a bunch of fucks that got too sloshed to ski to the bottom at the end of the day.

    This may come across as pretty jaded, especially from an absolute-non-local such as myself... but it seems like, at least from the old time stories Iíve heard from mags such as DJ, that Jackson has transitioned from a place that people used to move to for the sole purpose of pushing their skiing abilities, to now any shmuck moves to because itís the trendy new spot. Closing day was such a fucking gong show. Like a new low key gaper day, except the gapers were people that thought they were being rad. Sloppy tailgunning all over the mountain, DJ in the ranch lot playing shit music that was overpowering other peoplesí music at the opposite end of the lot... the list goes on.


    Thatís the first Iíve heard of the GTNP shenanigans, I guess hearing that triggered a bit of pent up frustration in me from what I have been witnessing around here all season. Just seems like a bunch of kids that graduated school but still behave like freshman. Thought I left that shit behind in Tempe, damn.
    the places every gaper used to go became suburbs.

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    I spent some time in Badlands, Sand Dunes, Black Canyon, Mesa Verde, Arches, and Canyonlands throughout last fall and crowds were never noticeably bad even on weekends. Some of those are less crowded parks in general but didn't run into any crowding issues. I suspect this spring/summer will be much worse as people get vaccinated and start venturing out more
    Quote Originally Posted by other grskier View Post
    well, in the three years i've been skiing i bet i can ski most anything those 'pro's' i listed can, probably

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