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04-11-2021, 05:06 PM #1
Ken Burns - Hemingway
My favorite TGR alias of the past. Pretty insightful watch, Papa was more complex, and dark, than the womanizing drunk we all know. Well worth the watch.
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04-11-2021, 05:24 PM #2
+1. I’ve only watched the first one, and it sent down the rabbit hole. I got fascinated by the stuff about Paris, and I picked up The Sun Also Rises for some re-reading. I read it before I was 20, and it’s kind of interesting how time and experience affects my perspective on it.
That said, I knew he was a dick, and the first episode pretty much confirmed that. Poor Hadley.
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04-12-2021, 09:56 AM #3
Wait until you get to the end. He was a supreme dick, with a ton of head injuries. Amazing how fucked up he looked in his forties and early fifties. The double plane crash in Africa is quite the story. Got to read his own obituary. I'm assuming that was a closed casket service at the real end.
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04-12-2021, 10:36 AM #4
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04-12-2021, 10:43 AM #5
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04-12-2021, 11:52 AM #6
Salon did not seem to like it. An interesting write up nonetheless. I had no idea on some of this stuff.
https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/ken...tist-politics/
I will watch it regardless. Hemingway, King and Twain were my first true “loves”.
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04-12-2021, 12:33 PM #7
That's an eye opening read. It's still worth watching, for sure. To tell you the truth, I really wish I didn't know everything I just learned about the man. Just the books and essays, please.
Burns fucked up with Baseball, so, my shit detector is always on when watching him. Country Music was pretty good, though.
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04-12-2021, 01:21 PM #8
Ted Williams was an asshole, but I still admire the guy. I can’t understand what was going on in their era so apart from mortal sins, I will focus on the good stuff.
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04-12-2021, 01:30 PM #9
Love reading Hemingway. No could tell a more interesting and gripping story of adventure. That is all I care about.
I put him in a very limited group of people who include Andy Warhol, George Plimpton, Bette Davis and certain Impressionistic painters. Just phenomenal“How does it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world? I don’t know, go ask Rory Gallagher”. — Jimi Hendrix
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04-12-2021, 01:50 PM #10
That guy makes some points, but all he cares about is politics and such. I strongly doubt he’d make a more balanced piece about Papa.
Burns doesn’t get everything right, but I really like his pacing, production values, and styling. His stuff is fun to watch, and a lot of it is thought provoking. And he always seems to have great historical imagery and footage, so there’s that.
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04-12-2021, 03:47 PM #11
It is very strange to actually hear Hemingway talk. Not much, but, there's that.
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04-12-2021, 04:01 PM #12Registered User
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Ken Burns - Hemingway
This thread is clearly a coming out trap for Ernest himself.
He’s been keeping a low profile lately it seems.
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04-12-2021, 05:14 PM #13
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04-12-2021, 09:55 PM #15Registered User
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04-13-2021, 08:04 AM #18Registered User
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Watched the episodes and liked it. It’s good to see a more in-depth story than many others would tell and not a fluff piece. I’ve heard many of the stories before but I enjoyed the chronological order of it all and lining it all up with his romantic interests.
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04-13-2021, 04:46 PM #19
A kind of interesting short interview with Ken Burns about the documentary.
https://www.insidehook.com/article/a...-hemingway-pbs
I don’t think there is a final judgment that you can make. We live in a society that seems to think there is a big on and off switch; there is not. Hemingway is a hard man to get to know, a hard man to reject and also a hard man to accept. But his literary work stands on its own.
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04-13-2021, 06:32 PM #20Registered User
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My Mom is too old for you, find someone yer own age.
Burns is a talented storyteller but visually he’s vanilla. He’s appealing to people who pays his bills: boomers who donate to PBS. He is a boring old school filmmaker.
If he’s making movies to ‘zone out to’, that is a red flag right there. Good long form documentaries should be challenging, especially PBS ones.
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04-13-2021, 07:05 PM #21
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04-13-2021, 07:38 PM #22Registered User
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Dang, I struck a nerve!
I was hesitant to rip on a show I haven’t seen but there is a zero percent chance Burns did anything different with Hemingway this late in his career.
Yes, I’ve read a lot of Hemingway although it’s been awhile. I’m a fan. So I’ll probably have to watch his show out of morbid curiosity.
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04-13-2021, 07:47 PM #23
Oh? How’s that?
I was hesitant to rip on a show I haven’t seen but there is a zero percent chance Burns did anything different with Hemingway this late in his career.
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04-13-2021, 07:59 PM #24Registered User
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04-13-2021, 08:03 PM #25
^ You’re kind of a fucking idiot. Do us a favor and split, kook.
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