Wildfire 2021

[PB]

Forgive a newb, but collapsing pyrocumulus clouds can lead to pyroclastic flows??? Isn't a simple firestorm bad enough?!?!?

[BCMtnHound]

State of emergency declared in BC by the prov govt.
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021PSSG0047-001404

Not enjoying the smoke, office smelled like a campfire despite the industrial air scrubbers blasting full on. So far no fires threatening our little community, but we are receiving some evacuees from neighbouring towns. Chance of thunderstorms forecast for tomorrow afternoon/evening. No significant rain in the forecast

[Benny Profane]

Orange moon tonight in CT.

[XXX-er]

It took awhile but BC declares a state of emergency today

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...y-20-1.6109437

that situation is down southeast in the province, its been cold & raining up here in the north west and we are glad for the shitty weather

[Timberridge]

I wish you folks out west would keep the smoke to yourselves. We have enough to worry about here on the EC with hurricanes and shit.

[TBS]

Just trying to provide you folks with a genuine Intermountain West Summer Experience…

[Timberridge]

Thanks. On a + note your Mars-like sunsets are spectacular.

[abraham]

I wish you folks out west would keep the smoke to yourselves. We have enough to worry about here on the EC with hurricanes and shit.

You folks send Benny out West to ski.

[bagtagley]

Holy crap, hazy smokey day today in NY tri state. Supposedly sourced in western Canada.

Just came to post this. Amazing sunrises/sunsets the past few days, but my lungs have been feeling the bike rides. I've dealt with local fires causing a haze, but I don't remember ever dealing with smoke from so far away. Weirdly, you can't smell it, you can just see and feel it.

[bodywhomper]

All you smoked out east coasters can get your congress folks and leaders to support the wildfire bills that were introduced in Congress. It’d be even better if those bills were larger. Example: the set aside $$ for rx treatment is not enough to meet the agreed upon acreage of federal lands in CA, let alone the other western states.

[Kevo]

1996 and 2008…Both big-camp IMT project fires for sure. In both cases the camp was on an airstrip in tokatee falls.
Nice country. One of those places I would’ve liked to visit when not at work.

Edit 1996 was called the Spring fire, 16,500 acres in the boulder creek wilderness area. 2008 was called the Rattle fire in the same ground and was 19,775.

Hey, I was on the Rattle Fire too. (Maybe we texted about it at the time?)

Woah, you weren’t exaggerating about same ground.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE...rdb5315055.pdf

That is some gnarly terrain up there. Fighting using MIST must have been a bitch - especially when you had to leave snags the first time thru.

My crew spent a week on a ridge line with a few other crews trying to keep the fire inside the wilderness boundary. It kept making uphill runs out of the wilderness and burning over our lines and backing down the hill into non-wilderness. We weren't allowed to do anything in the wilderness area- no burning, no cutting lines, etc. Every day we were putting in new lines downhill to catch the slop over.

We eventually got pulled off the ridge and participated in a firing operation off a road a mile or so in front of where our lines had been. Maybe 8 days of work had been wasted on the ridge- a pretty common occurrence in the wildland world.

I took this pic as we were headed off the ridge for the last time before that firing operation-


Side note, but I remember coming across a natural spring inside the black near our line one day. Everything around it had torched out, but there was this little island of green unburned paradise with frogs just hanging, where only a few feet to the side there were big doug firs that had torched out. It's a very vivid memory for me.

[TBS]

Thanks. On a + note your Mars-like sunsets are spectacular.

Just came to post this. Amazing sunrises/sunsets the past few days, but my lungs have been feeling the bike rides. I've dealt with local fires causing a haze, but I don't remember ever dealing with smoke from so far away. Weirdly, you can't smell it, you can just see and feel it.

Get back to me when your views are like this

AQI that day was 420

[altasnob]

Most of the current east coast smoke looks to be coming from fires in Manitoba and Saskatchewan:


http://firesmoke.ca/forecasts/BSC18CA12/current/

We routinely get smoky hazy sunsets from Siberian fires in Seattle.

[Timberridge]

Fucking Canadians.

AQI that day was 420

420? That sounds like the AQI in SFB's tuning room.

Peaked at 120 here this am, currently running at 82 ish. For comparison.

[Benny Profane]

All you smoked out east coasters can get your congress folks and leaders to support the wildfire bills that were introduced in Congress. It’d be even better if those bills were larger. Example: the set aside $$ for rx treatment is not enough to meet the agreed upon acreage of federal lands in CA, let alone the other western states.

Nah, I think I'd rather see much much less people moving to the west where it doesn't rain and burns all summer and a ton of that wildfire money is used to protect homes built in stupid zones. With cedar shake roofs. We barely, if ever, need a wildfire budget here, because IT RAINS HERE and it's green.

[TBS]

Fucking Canadians.


420? That sounds like the AQI in SFB's tuning room.

Peaked at 120 here this am, currently running at 82 ish. For comparison.

^^^ I remember because I was processing a harvest and the smoke smell was so bad in the house, Ms TBS didn't care if I trimmed inside.

[bodywhomper]

Nah, I think I'd rather see much much less people moving to the west where it doesn't rain and burns all summer and a ton of that wildfire money is used to protect homes built in stupid zones. With cedar shake roofs. We barely, if ever, need a wildfire budget here, because IT RAINS HERE and it's green.

If more of the west burns in severe ways in the summer, the smoke in the east will be worse

[Benny Profane]

Yeah, but, it's the east. A cold front from Canada comes through in a few days, it RAINS like fuck, the winds follow, and, wah lah, back to normal. The west is starting to burn in the winter.

[abraham]

A lot of your smoke is coming from just north of Minnesota.

[Timberridge]

So you're saying the cold front from Canada knocks out the smoke from Canada?
Well, then I guess they're ok.

[Benny Profane]

God works his magic in strange ways.

[Timberridge]

Saves me from writing my congressman.

[Benny Profane]

Hell, just send him a grand in small bills.

[altasnob]

So you're saying the cold front from Canada knocks out the smoke from Canada?
Well, then I guess they're ok.

Cold Smoke

[TBS]

A lot of your smoke is coming from just north of Minnesota.

You are correct sir
See https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...gtype=Homepage
For smoke transport map

Looks like the NE US is smelling Manitoba burning
The fires in southern OR and N CA are smoking up ID & MT

Can’t figure out where the SE BC smoke is going.