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03-15-2021, 05:16 PM #51
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03-15-2021, 08:15 PM #52Registered User
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03-15-2021, 08:23 PM #53
5’10” 185, so considerably smaller. But I fucking hate light skis. The ravens are legit.
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03-15-2021, 08:29 PM #54King potato
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03-15-2021, 08:52 PM #55Registered User
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That’s so Raven
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03-15-2021, 09:54 PM #56
Yep, blue raven. Excellent ski. Haven’t followed construction changes to the raven. Has it been softened and lightened? Shape and rocker profile of the blue version is money.
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03-15-2021, 10:10 PM #57Johnny Poppinoffastuff
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As a counterpoint I'm 6'6" 210# and I did not like the raven. Neither did my buddy who's similar height and 250#. To me they felt hooky, which I can only guess is because they were folding/overflexing, because nothing about the raven shape or rocker profile would otherwise seem the least bit hooky.
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03-16-2021, 08:14 AM #58
Not hooky. Literally can’t be. How fast were you skiing / what angle / kind of snow? Hard to compare backcountry skis bc we all on diff snow (as opposed to resort). In low angle wet snow I’ve experienced them as grabby and reluctant to turn, but I think that’s due to stiffness. I skied them one day in a resort to test the edges and was kinda shocked how maneuverable I found them. I don’t ski them often that said
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03-16-2021, 09:25 AM #59
Light, shred-worthy touring sticks
Well, they’re acceptable for me getting through the resort going to and coming from bc laps but they do get tossed around in chunky crud. They’re fine on smooth groomers and firm wild snow. I have no complaints in powder and all 3D bc snow, crust and wind board.
I have the blue and white 190s. I can see how someone might feel they’re hooky. If you’re heavier and stomp on them they will flex too much and bog down in deeper snow.
I feel if you drive forward too much they seem unpredictable. If you drive through your arches and use lateral movements they’re automatic. They like speed. You can noodle around but the faster you go the looser they get.
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03-16-2021, 09:30 AM #60
I think at my size I would feel the same as you about the Ravens on the 195 Hojis inbounds.
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03-16-2021, 11:19 AM #61
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03-16-2021, 02:37 PM #62Johnny Poppinoffastuff
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Yeah, I'm guessing they behave differently if you're not so heavy that you flex through them. I mean, they obviously do, or people wouldn't be raving about them. Curious if anyone over 200lbs has gotten along with them.
To be clear, it was in 3 dimensional snow they would fold/hook. Definitely not on firmer surfaces. The harder you skied them the worse it got. Dolphin turns? Fantastic.
While I'm playing the heretic - they're also pretty heavy for the surface area. 104 underfoot, but also only 120 in the tip. And what, 1900g in the 190? That's pretty chunky for a touring ski that size, even a damp one. So I guess what I'm saying is that personally I didn't find them to have too many redeeming qualities as a touring ski.
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03-16-2021, 02:42 PM #63Johnny Poppinoffastuff
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Oh man, corbetts had some 192s cheap earlier this year and my finger was on the trigger multiple times. I have regrets. Ultimately, for my use case though, I decided the 1850g weight wasn't enough lighter than my current options. Still not sure. If I come across a cheap used pair, I'd probably bite
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03-16-2021, 04:16 PM #64
I dig my 192 108 zeroG’s but they really prefer open terrain and a stiff boot. They do handle PNW snow better than many somewhat comparable skis. Much different than the 105s, which are friendly and easy to ski but don’t have the edge hold and power of the 108.
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03-16-2021, 06:24 PM #65mental projection
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I have nothing but great things to say about my newish DPS Pagoda Tour 100RPs. Light, stable and a really fun ski. I put a pair of Salomon MTN Pure bindings on and couldn't be happier with the setup.
I replaced a pair of K2 Coomback 102s with the Pagodas and have definitely noticed a difference in the ability to open up the Pagodas versus the Coombacks that liked to turn.
Yes, DPS = Double Priced Skis, but....
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03-16-2021, 07:34 PM #66
Maybe I’m not being clear, they’re my
favorite touring ski
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03-16-2021, 08:14 PM #67Registered User
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03-16-2021, 08:52 PM #68Johnny Poppinoffastuff
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03-16-2021, 09:01 PM #69Johnny Poppinoffastuff
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Oh, no you were mostly clear on that. I just missed your linebacker status further upthread. Question answered. "Stomping" on them sounds synonymous with skiing hard to me, but perhaps I'm misinterpreting you.
You're certainly in good company liking them, I seem to be in the minority.
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03-16-2021, 09:43 PM #70Registered User
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Realized I have forgot to mention LongRide, dude lives in the PNW and both dabbles in lightweight and fr sticks. Got some from him that are 1800 and loving them.
TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.
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03-25-2021, 08:06 PM #71Johnny Poppinoffastuff
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Corbett's has a few pairs of backland 100s in 188 for $335. I smashed around inbounds this afternoon on a demo pair and was pretty impressed. Only got them in a little funky snow, mostly skied windbuff which seems a fair approximation of corn skiing, which will be their primary responsibility. Well that and making scary turns on steep shit. Tail is quite stiff, front less so - recommended mount definitely feels too far forward. It feels like you're well into the forward sidecut on rec. Hopeful that pushing back a cm or 2 will make it feel a little more balanced. 1445g/ski on the shop scale, can't believe how hard I could ski these given that weight.
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03-28-2021, 08:28 AM #72
Looking for skis and posted up in gear swap. A bit shorter than a lot of the skis mentioned here (short Irish legs and to mangage EC thwack)
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11-09-2021, 12:46 PM #73Registered User
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Diggin up this old thread as I am in a similar situation as the op.
Skiing the alps, only touring, 180cm, 75kg. Looking for a directional reliable ski for tours around 1400-1600m a day.
The ski will get ATK R12 and bootwise I am in Blizzard Zero Gs. I have powder skis (Lotus 120s), I have a ultralight pair (old pre-rocker movement Logic-X) and now I am looking for something in the middle. Lowdowns 102 not available anymore... would have loved a long radius.
Torn between Blizzard Zero G 105 and Scott Superguide Freetour. Any more info on the free tours an how they compare? Or general reservations on any of the brands (build quality and so on)?
thx!
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11-09-2021, 01:46 PM #74Registered User
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I'd favor the ZG105 - bit more versatile and easier to use. I've spent plenty of time on ZG skis, and they are pretty awesome skis.
Just to throw out another contender, consider the Majesty Supernova. I got a pair this season, and they are a really capable ski. Interesting design with the cut off tail lets you ski a bit shorter but have plenty of ski in front. I'll have to ski them more, but at this stage I'd rate them the best ski in that mid-fat class...and it takes a lot for me to consider saying that given I still have a pair of ZG108s.
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11-09-2021, 01:49 PM #75
I own the Zero G 105's. They are excellent. I previously owned and enjoyed the Zero G 108's. I once bought a pair of the older Scott Superguide 105s, but never mounted them. The were stupidly stiff and the quality of construction was subpar. The just looked sloppy. Hopefully the new ones are much better.
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