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    Pivot question

    I just had someone else mount my fucking skis (with pivots) and the shop let me know that the din reading on the toe pieces is changing depending on whether it has boots engaged. So like a 10 without the boot in and a 12 when itís in. Has anyone seen this in pivots?

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    was there a lot of haze in haze in the shop?
    can't help you but go ask Alice, I think she'll know.
    Growing up I was a very technical skier at a tiny ski hill, now when I go back, I just take the whole thing in ... with flexion, then extension. And yeah I am over it.

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    What model?


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    P18s

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    That shouldnít happen. the screw, washers and spring assembly may be assembled incorrectly. Or if theyíre really old something could be catching and needs a regrease.

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    Another thought... are you jamming WTR soles into a P18? That might do it. Don’t do that.

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    There is a metal screw that goes through the pedestal that the spring goes over and the toe adjustment screws onto which could have grease on it or be stripped. Either could be causing your issue. The grease you see here on the threads should not be there.



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    Thanks guys. They did the bench test with my Lange rx boots, so I think weíre good there. They are unused and pretty new. Iíll mention the grease theory to the shop.

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    Iíve never had that happen with pivots so no help there. Is forward pressure right? With boot in angle tab behind heel is lined up to the end


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    Quote Originally Posted by big kook View Post
    could have grease on it or be stripped. Either could be causing your issue. The grease you see here on the threads should not be there.
    Haha, looking forward to your explanation of how grease could cause this issue (or ANY issue whatsoever).

    Aside from a thick haze in the shop, upward pressure on the toe could cause this issue (as Judo mentioned). Your RX should be no problem though...
    Craaazy way too high forward pressure could theoretically cause this too but youíd really have to force the boot in and yank up on the dildo to affect the DIN.

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    The grease on the threads is fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwat View Post
    Haha, looking forward to your explanation of how grease could cause this issue (or ANY issue whatsoever).
    The fuck you think this is, grease class? I have no idea. I had the same problem in an 18 toepiece and the shop tec said to try this. I did and the problem went away. Maybe something else was causing it and it was a coincidence. Don't know don't care.
    Last edited by big kook; 02-27-2021 at 01:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big kook View Post
    I have no idea. Don't know don't care.
    You are correct about one thing, thanks for clarifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwat View Post
    You are correct about one thing, thanks for clarifying.
    Anytime, boomer.

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    I think Iím going to let my shop send the toes back to Look to evaluate them. I donít want to be thinking about a potential blow up when Iím skiing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLAjong View Post
    I think Iím going to let my shop send the toes back to Look to evaluate them. I donít want to be thinking about a potential blow up when Iím skiing them.
    Did you rule out the WTR incompatibility?


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    Quote Originally Posted by French Pizza View Post
    Did you rule out the WTR incompatibility?
    Or GW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post
    Or GW?
    The new GW pedestals are alpine and GW compatible. Just wanted to rule out a WTR or AT sole.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gwat View Post
    You are correct about one thing, thanks for clarifying.
    So glad Iím not the only one who has been absolutely baffled by this claim.


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    They were mounting them using my Lange rxís, so it shouldnít be a WTR issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLAjong View Post
    They were mounting them using my Lange rxís, so it shouldnít be a WTR issue.
    Any update?


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    FWIW, Just noticed this same issue on my new P15s first time i popped my boots in to get them adjusted. Probably only noticed due to this thread, but DIN went from 8-10 as the dildo activated. Forward pressure was jacked up way too high pre-adjustment... boot's gw contact point sat about 1/4" off the afd, and the binding toepiece was rocked forward substantially. No bueno. Of course, the binding forward pressure indicator was dead nuts.

    Set up forward pressure appropriately per the other thread, and voila, toe DIN holds when a boot is locked and loaded.

    Not a shop tech, but would wager a guess that's what was going on in the OPs case too.

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