What ski will my wife take to Japan next year?

**Lord Thomas** · 02-21-2021, 06:50 PM

We went to Japan a couple of years ago and wife loved it. She want's to go next year. On previous trip she brought BMT 122's in a 176 and thought they were perfect. Sold those last year so looks like I will need to replace them.

Wife 5'9" and +/- 150lb. technically a very good skier but getting more low key as she gets older. She's leaning more towards lightweight skis and wants to take essentially a fat touring setup as we will be doing a lot of climbing for turns. Heavier than a BMT 122 (1,850 grams per ski) need not apply but 115mm-125mm underfoot desired. Pegging the float/surf meter in the pow while being honest and competent when cruising groomers back to the lift is the goal. High speed stability is not too important but the more immune to shitty off piste conditions the better. She is very favorably disposed toward reverse camber. Will be put into the rotation for local touring after the trip.

I've been building a list of possibilities in my head and here's what I got so far:
Bent Chelter 120 - 176 or 184
JJ UL 115 - 175 or 185
Pescado - prolly the first gen that weigh a little less
Helio 115 or 116 - 177/176
Nocta - 177 (not sure if this is too heavy)
Wildcat Tour - 179
Maybe just need to find another pair of BMT 122's?

Will do everything I can to get her on a demo prior to purchase. This is all assuming that her knee problems get sorted out before next season. What am I missing???

**Robik** · 02-21-2021, 06:56 PM

Hoji CC?

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**jackattack** · 02-21-2021, 06:59 PM

Carbon layup Protest. I’ve never been to Japan but when I go I will be skiing protests.

**detrusor** · 02-21-2021, 07:01 PM

I took carbon layup GPO’s. They were perfect

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**XXX-er** · 02-21-2021, 09:18 PM

well we probably need the nekid pics eh

i took hybrid lotus 120 which were perfect

**justcuz** · 02-21-2021, 09:23 PM

My wife is on Helios and they seem awesome. She’s like every ski she’s owned. Says they suck on groomers. If she could get on with a 180 I’d say pescados all friggin day.

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**SoVT Joey** · 02-21-2021, 09:23 PM

All I picked up was that you two were into pegging.

But my nocta is super light. I love touring on it.

**nickel** · 02-22-2021, 07:36 AM

UL protest. /thread

**Lord Thomas** · 02-22-2021, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by XXX-er

well we probably need the nekid pics eh

i took hybrid lotus 120 which were perfect

XXX-er, unless you're already X-pert at typing with one hand you probably don't want the nekid pics. During ski season is not the time to suffer a preventable "sports injury".

Sounds like I need to investigate Praxis touring core options.

Would like to hear more about the Noctas. Bird Shaffer lives around here so I might be able to arrange a demo

Would also like to have her demo some Pescados with 1kg touring boots. Sounds like that ski has a huge sweet spot

**tuco** · 02-22-2021, 08:51 AM

WNDR?

**TahoeJ** · 02-22-2021, 09:07 AM

I took my 190 Nocta's to Japan and they are the absolute perfect ski for that place. Tons of float for the not so steep sections, not too heavy and they pivot really easily in the trees. In general you want to go with something surfy, not chargy. Although you've already been there so you know that.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs8lNgBlYvx/

**kootenayskier** · 02-22-2021, 09:10 AM

Effortless short powder turns, carving soft groomers and lightweight = DPS Wailer 112s.

**NW_SKIER** · 02-22-2021, 09:11 AM

Another vote for protest

**SoVT Joey** · 02-22-2021, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by TahoeJ

I took my 190 Nocta's to Japan and they are the absolute perfect ski for that place. Tons of float for the not so steep sections, not too heavy and they pivot really easily in the trees.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs8lNgBlYvx/

My 185 is a east coast skiing dream for the super light and fluffy days. If I was headed there I’d take it without even thinking twice. I have a Duke pt 16 on mine.

**ASP** · 02-22-2021, 11:57 AM

You can usually find 182 Lotus 138's for a song...

**turnfarmer** · 02-22-2021, 04:56 PM

My wife is so irrational with ski gear that even if something new is better, the one she liked previously was better. I advise finding another pair of BMTs.

**Lord Thomas** · 02-22-2021, 07:57 PM

Anyone got an actual weight on Nocta 177's? Will post a pic if you can

**TahoeJ** · 02-22-2021, 08:29 PM

Email or web site chat black crows - they will get back to you. They’ve been responsive in the past.

**MegaStoke** · 02-22-2021, 10:47 PM

Billy Goat 116 Tour.

**Tailwind** · 02-22-2021, 11:54 PM

Season Forma in a 167 would be worth a peek.

The Pescado is magic... but I bet some of that might be lost at her height and weight if she isn’t charging hard.

Think hard about mount points... that’s what throws a low of people through loops switching skis. More forward mounts for powder skis take time to adjust to. Pintails and swallow tails are dead easy.

**NW_SKIER** · 02-22-2021, 11:58 PM

Just checking in to mention the protest again

**SoVT Joey** · 02-23-2021, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Lord Thomas

Anyone got an actual weight on Nocta 177's? Will post a pic if you can

If no one posts a weight I can later this week. Ill go by the shop with a scale.

**54-46** · 02-23-2021, 06:50 AM

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Noctas

(Kid did well with Daemon Birdies but she weighs just 110-115)

**auvgeek** · 02-23-2021, 08:53 AM

182 DPS Lotus 138

**kootenayskier** · 02-23-2021, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by auvgeek

182 DPS Lotus 138

Obviously super fun in the deep Japow, but terrible on groomers and barely surviveable in firmer conditions.

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