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  1. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by kootenayskier View Post
    Obviously super fun in the deep Japow, but terrible on groomers and barely surviveable in firmer conditions.
    Well YMMV, but I skied the 202 L138 a fair amount and found it superior to the Protest on groomers and firm. Especially if you can find an older Rocker 1 or Rocker 2 version.
    "Alpine rock and steep, deep powder are what I seek, and I will always find solace there." - Bean Bowers

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  2. #27
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    My wife won't ride anything but her Hoji's, That with a touring binding is tough to beat for every day.

  3. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Thomas View Post
    Anyone got an actual weight on Nocta 177's? Will post a pic if you can
    1925g listed here; seems about right - https://www.blue-tomato.com/en-GB/pr...arid=304371367

  4. #29
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    Elan Ripstick 116 in a 177cm?
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    I love big dumps.

  5. #30
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    How about 175 cm GPO's in a +10 to get to 121 mm waist width.....
    Aggressive in my own mind

  6. #31
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    custom praxis (to get spec waist +10 is pricey).
    Nocta above seems like a readily available candidate to demo
    Aggressive in my own mind

  7. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by turnfarmer View Post
    My wife is so irrational with ski gear that even if something new is better, the one she liked previously was better. I advise finding another pair of BMTs.
    I'm with this guy. If the BMTs are perfect (in her mind) why mess with perfection?

  8. #33
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    Because protests

  9. #34
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    I would take something 110-120 wide with early rise that still does ok on groomers
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  10. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel View Post
    Because protests
    Fair enough. One of these days I need to get myself some laps on some Protests.

  11. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    I would take something 110-120 wide with early rise that still does ok on groomers
    Agree completely. If you're riding the lifts, groomer performance is nearly as important as pow from my limited experience in Japan. A few years ago Mrs. Swim brought Nordica La Nina 169s and they were perfect. Next trip it's gonna be DPS Yvette 168s.

    As much as I love Protests, don't think that'd be the right choice unless you're touring the whole time

  12. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Thomas View Post
    Anyone got an actual weight on Nocta 177's? Will post a pic if you can
    Select length on their website, this will display further info:

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  13. #38
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    What ski will my wife take to Japan next year?

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  14. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by lrn2swim View Post
    As much as I love Protests, don't think that'd be the right choice unless you're touring the whole time
    Yup, whereas Noctas are surprisingly decent on groomers - you just tip them over on edge and they rail pretty decently for 122 underfoot.

  15. #40
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    GF skied the VJJ 175 on our Japan trips and loved them. The only thing she didn’t like is they started to feel heavy as the day went on. Just picked up the new UL version. 1600g ea for the 175.

  16. #41
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    BG 116 tour would be a solid option. The wife skied her Jessie 108’s with shifts last year and that was perfect given the low tide conditions as we did end up having a lot of 4-8” days of higher density snow.


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