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02-21-2021, 02:58 PM #1
Elko-Ruby Mtns-Lamoille Cyn
Reno news reporting 3 snowmobilers grabbed in Lamoille around noon yesterday. One rode out for help, rescuers evaced the second with injuries, then search called for the night with safety concerns. Currently searching for the third rider. What a rough month, fingers crossed.
"if you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind..."
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02-21-2021, 08:18 PM #2
Elko news is calling it a fatality, hope their wrong
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02-22-2021, 11:17 AM #3
https://elkodaily.com/news/local/roa...83698b6df.html
Three young men from the Elko area were snowmobiling near Castle Lake high in the mountains above Lamoille Canyon when the avalanche occurred shortly before noon Saturday.powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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02-22-2021, 01:18 PM #4
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02-22-2021, 01:25 PM #5Registered User
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Poaching wilderness in that area has been extremely common in the past, has anything changed recently? Any enforcement at all? Wondering if anyone really cares enough to prosecute them.
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02-22-2021, 01:32 PM #6
There was a snowbike/Timbersled fatality in the Flat Tops Wilderness, CO a few years ago. I don't recall ever hearing that the survivor was fined or charged for poaching the wilderness area. Doesn't mean he wasn't, but if he was, it didn't make the news.
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02-22-2021, 01:42 PM #7
Someone died. I think the last thing on any reasonable persons mind would be writing them a ticket for snowmobiling in the wilderness.
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02-22-2021, 03:05 PM #8
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02-22-2021, 03:06 PM #9
I'd say it's already not gone well for them
True, but there could be some sort of restitution involved, especially if it requires resources in the wilderness again to remove the sleds. Also, doesn't Ruby Mountain Heli guides have some role in avalanche accident investigations there if conditions allow.
My point for bringing it up was whether it played a roll in the accident at all. Is there significantly more compaction on the legal side of Liberty Pass? Is it another example of so many people accessing the usual zones that many are exploring further than they otherwise would?
Also why would they close off the entire canyon for the recovery effort on Sunday, or was that reported incorrectly.powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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02-22-2021, 03:12 PM #10
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02-22-2021, 03:32 PM #11So if a drunk driver kills their passenger in an auto collision do they get a pass too?
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02-22-2021, 05:55 PM #12Banned
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Designated Wilderness doesn't mean "no mechanized access when there isn't anyone looking," it means no mechanized access period. Just because someone died doesn't mean that laws weren't broken, or that those who broke them shouldn't be held accountable.
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02-22-2021, 06:05 PM #13
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02-22-2021, 06:07 PM #14Registered User
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If anyone around there cared they would have someone sitting there giving out tickets on the weekends. Only one way back to their trucks, a small notch over the pass AFAIK. Giving out a ticket to the survivors might be fair but you might get death threats in Elko for doing that.
or maybe they already do give out tickets like I said? Haven't been there in years on a sled.
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02-22-2021, 06:14 PM #15death threats in Elko
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02-22-2021, 07:52 PM #16
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It's a blunt metaphor, but absolutely comparable: a decision was made (imbibe, recreate in avalanche terrain), a law was broken (impaired driving, snowmobile in a wilderness area), consequences ensue (citation and death).
RIP to the fallen, but I disagree that they are exempt from the consequences just because their buddy died.
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02-22-2021, 08:08 PM #17
A lot needs to change in the mechanized world... there's a strong "but muh freedoms!" attitude that leads to both 1) snowmobilers not wanting to listen to skiers about avalanche safety, even though the ski community is light years ahead in terms of education and awareness and 2) not caring much about wilderness boundaries, which are rarely enforced in the winter. And to be fair, a bunch of skiers reacting to accidents like this with "well, it sucks they died, but they really need to be fined for poaching wilderness" doesn't really help bridge the divide between the two communities.
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02-22-2021, 09:41 PM #18
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02-23-2021, 09:31 AM #19Registered User
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The snowmobilers I see are almost all carrying transceivers, rescue gear and many have airbags and knowledge. The UAC and Craig Gordon have done a great job at local education. Similar education is being pushed out by Avalanche Centers across the country. Elko is more isolated and rural so the message is not as loud. Vibes to the friends and family.
Last edited by TeleBlade; 02-24-2021 at 09:47 AM.
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