United 328.....Holeeeeee Shit.

**seano732** · 02-20-2021, 05:54 PM

All the Broomfield mags ok??? Ted Striker to the white courtesy phone, please. Crazy:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/20/u...eld-plane.html

**Danno** · 02-20-2021, 05:55 PM

Some friends of mine live in that neighborhood, but didn't get hit.

**ötzi** · 02-20-2021, 06:00 PM

Crazy. Just read about it because of this thread. Glad everyone's okay. United's "working on getting everyone on another flight in the next few hours". I think I might pass.

**seano732** · 02-20-2021, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by ötzi

Crazy. Just read about it because of this thread. Glad everyone's okay. United's "working on getting everyone on another flight in the next few hours". I think I might pass.

Fucking United, man........Props to the flight crew, the audio of the mayday call was fucking impressive. Sounded like the pilot was ordering takeout.

**seano732** · 02-20-2021, 06:14 PM

Let’s go to the viddy:
https://twitter.com/rexchapman/statu...905892865?s=21

**hawkgt** · 02-20-2021, 06:15 PM

jus' a couple parts is all.

**XXX-er** · 02-20-2021, 06:19 PM

Statistically Its still safer than driving to costco

**seano732** · 02-20-2021, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by XXX-er

Statistically Its still safer than driving to costco

Well yes but statistics fly (snort) out the window if you’re filming that shit......

**ötzi** · 02-20-2021, 06:42 PM

That video's steady as shit. Seano post up the audio if you know where to find it.

**seano732** · 02-20-2021, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by ötzi

That video's steady as shit. Seano post up the audio if you know where to find it.

https://kdvr.com/news/local/listen-m...ed-flight-328/

**Dee Hubbs** · 02-20-2021, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by seano732

Props to the flight crew, the audio of the mayday call was fucking impressive. Sounded like the pilot was ordering takeout.

I get more worked up trying to order takeout.
Pilot: “gonna need a turn immediately”
Me ordering take out: “Are you sure got the spring rolls? Really? you’re SURE? You repeated all the other items BUT you just said yup when I mentioned the SPRING ROLLS! So the spring rolls are ordered? Can you read back my order please”

Pilot with air traffic control:
https://soundcloud.com/denverpost/ma...ted-flight-328

**Mazderati** · 02-20-2021, 07:05 PM

The whole contained engine failure thing hasn't worked out in a few recent cases.

I went down the rabbit hole listening to ATC communications on YouTube a while back and the pilots were almost always cool as a cucumber in even the most dire circumstances.

**hatchgreenchile** · 02-20-2021, 07:11 PM

I was driving back to my house, a few miles south of the flight path over Broomfield, and saw both the plane and the smoke.
Something looked off immediately. Clouds aren't charcoal colored spheres, and it seemed the plane was slowing and flattening its ascent. I figured I was delusional and chalked it up as nothing. Wrong!
Do homeowners get to call United and say "get your shit off my lawn?"

**DJSapp** · 02-20-2021, 07:19 PM

Bird get sucked up into the engine on takeoff? A 777 limping back around on one engine is a tough one

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**Skistack** · 02-20-2021, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by DJSapp

Bird get sucked up into the engine on takeoff? A 777 limping back around on one engine is a tough one

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We’ve got a shit-ton of geese around here, would not surprise me.

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**splat** · 02-20-2021, 08:03 PM

I could see the water the copilot was emptying out of his Arrowhead water bottle going by the window but it appears to have missed the engine.

**seano732** · 02-20-2021, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by DJSapp

Bird get sucked up into the engine on takeoff? A 777 limping back around on one engine is a tough one

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Better than over the Pacific....

**The AD** · 02-20-2021, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mazderati

The whole contained engine failure thing hasn't worked out in a few recent cases.

Well, it did here. The requirement is for the lost blades to be contained. The big issue is the blades penetrating the pressurized fuselage or cutting through things like hydraulics. Obviously you'd prefer parts of the engine to not rain down on neighborhoods, but that's certainly better than an entire airplane going down.

**Crusty** · 02-20-2021, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by DJSapp

Bird get sucked up into the engine on takeoff? A 777 limping back around on one engine is a tough one

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Although you'd prefer two engines, the plane can climb on one engine.

**The AD** · 02-20-2021, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Crusty

Although you'd prefer two engines, the plane can climb on one engine.

And just so everyone know, airplanes that fly for extended periods over the ocean (like this one) are ETOPS rated. ETOPS stands for "extended twin engine operations." In other words they must be certified to fly for a long time on just a single engine. I believe these 777s are rated to fly 330 minutes on one engine. It's no big deal--just put your window shade down.

**Ted Striker** · 02-20-2021, 09:04 PM

The 777 isn't exactly limping on one engine.

As for over the ocean, it'll fly on one engine fine, but it takes so much more fuel that a diversion to another destination is often necessary - or at least the better option. Though in the case of a 777, Hawaii isn't actually that far.

Flying is more about time than distance. You'll never hear a pilot say "we have ___ miles" of fuel. It's ___ hours of fuel. So before the flight they calculate the "equal time points" meaning that before they cross that point they'll use one airport as an alternate landing spot, and after they'll use the next airport down the line, and so on.

From the US mainland to HI there aren't any islands so the last ETP would be between SFO and whichever airport the destination is. Something happens before that point, they're turning around.

**seano732** · 02-20-2021, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by The AD

And just so everyone know, airplanes that fly for extended periods over the ocean (like this one) are ETOPS rated. ETOPS stands for "extended twin engine operations." In other words they must be certified to fly for a long time on just a single engine. I believe these 777s are rated to fly 330 minutes on one engine. It's no big deal--just put your window shade down.

And watch HGTV.

**seano732** · 02-20-2021, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ted Striker

The 777 isn't exactly limping on one engine.

As for over the ocean, it'll fly on one engine fine, but it takes so much more fuel that a diversion to another destination is often necessary - or at least the better option. Though in the case of a 777, Hawaii isn't actually that far.

Flying is more about time than distance. You'll never hear a pilot say "we have ___ miles" of fuel. It's ___ hours of fuel. So before the flight they calculate the "equal time points" meaning that before they cross that point they'll use one airport as an alternate landing spot, and after they'll use the next airport down the line, and so on.

From the US mainland to HI there aren't any islands so the last ETP would be between SFO and whichever airport the destination is. Something happens before that point, they're turning around.

Thank you TS.