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02-19-2021, 02:21 AM #1Registered User
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Norrona lyngen alpha vest: experience? (and other suggestions going up)
any of you tried this?
https://www.norrona.com/en-GB/produc...en/?color=1105
still trying to figure out how to dress when going up. I guess my new baselayer (Patagonia Nano Air) is too hot, so might go back to classic Patagonia Capilene.
Never used vests, so i was thinking to give this a go.
I have the Arcteryx Proton LT (long sleeve) which is a terrific piece and breathes well, but sometime is too hot as well.
thanks in advance
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02-19-2021, 05:19 AM #2Registered User
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I wear this which is similar, over a long sleeved synthetic baselayer in the winter and really like it.
https://www.mountain-equipment.co.uk...ts/switch-vest
It is possibly a little bit lighter than the Norrona vest you have linked and has a grid fleece back which I like as I am always wearing a pack when touring.
Outdoor Research also do a deviator vest which looks good.
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02-19-2021, 03:59 PM #3Registered Useless
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I picked up the mountain hardware polartec alpha vest (kor strata, I think??) for super cheap this year. I wear it with a merino baselayer or thin sun hoody for early morning skinning. Down to about 10 degrees F. If it's windy (> 20mph), I wear a softshell and the baselayer. Otherwise, baselayer and and polartec vest. Nice set up. For context, I run pretty effin hot usually
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02-19-2021, 05:37 PM #4Registered User
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02-22-2021, 04:44 AM #5Registered User
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so it seems that Norrona has the heaviest polartec Alpha, and from their site it doesn't look the back panel is different/more breathable. So i guess this would be too hot.
OR is discontinued.
I see that also Dynastar makes some nice Polartec Alpha Vest.
Do you find the hood a necessity (OR and Norrona have it, Mountain Equipment not)? or pretty useless since hat/buff/etc always at hand?
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02-22-2021, 05:39 AM #6
Norrona lyngen alpha vest: experience? (and other suggestions going up)
I wear a long underwear top and a R1 down to 20, down to 0 I change the R1 for the Flylow holiday hoody and now my new bross hoody’s. Below zero I usually wear my micro to start over a bross or holiday and within ten minutes I’m shedding it, I also have been using the Flylow Larry vest. It’s a micro puff. I don’t like fleece when I’m hiking. It seems to attract too much vapor and gets iced. The micro puff layers stay dryer. I keep an R1 zip up fleece in the bottom of my pack always though for the just in case something happens layer.
But I run to hot to have fleece over a bross or holiday or R1. The micro puff seems to just give a good core layer but is also airy and light enough to not bug me. Patagonia makes a micro puff vest as well
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02-22-2021, 06:22 AM #7Registered User
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Thanks. I do have the classic R1 hoody: being in Italy, it will never be so freezing to need the R1 on top of the base layer while going up. I sweat just thinking of it.
I love the R1, but mostly as midlayer for resort snowboarding, after several experiments it's the best combination of warmth and breathability.
I do have the Arct. Proton LT (full, not vest) which is similar to the Patagonia nano-air.
If it's so cold to need a good vest, i would probably use the Proton.
Here i am looking for something lighter and to cover that range between baselayer only and baselayer+Atom.
So the Mountain Equipment Switch or the OR Deviator seem to be perfect.
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02-22-2021, 06:39 AM #8
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02-22-2021, 09:27 AM #9Registered User
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02-22-2021, 08:13 PM #10Registered User
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how would you experts compare the Patagonia Nano Air Vest with these other vests with Polartec Alpha on the front and Powergrid on the back?
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02-23-2021, 11:53 AM #11
I need, like... an anti-vest.
super thin nothingness around my core (and backpack area) where I get hot, but insulated at upper chest, neck, hood, shoulders and sleeves.
I'm weird.
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02-23-2021, 12:06 PM #12
Outdoor research make an alpha best which I think is called the ascendant vest. I love mine and wear it constantly. I also have a proton LT hoody like you and this ascendency vest compliments it well in warmer weather.
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02-23-2021, 01:00 PM #13Registered User
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I have an original nano air hoody which despite having lost a fair bit of its insulation is still warmer in the body than my switch vest. The nano air material is probably more breathable than the front (alpha with a backer) of the vest but not the back (grid).
To be honest I find my nano air too warm for most situations and certainly not as versatile as the switch vest which has essentially replaced it in my layering.
Patagonia did make a nano air hybrid vest which looked like a great alternative option but sadly discontinued also.
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02-23-2021, 01:11 PM #14
I always run too warm. This last season I have been experimenting with a Strafe version of their Recon Air (Alpha material) and find that it breathes exceptionally well, fairly impressed. My brother has the nano air that he tours in, and likes, I find it obscenely hot to wear the moment I start moving. To me it feels more like a light belay jacket for alpine climbing, but I run very warm when active. It has also become ridiculously difficult to just find a simple wind shirt. I just picked up a Norrona version on clearance that has a weird zipper that looks like it will breathe and protect from the wind over just a base layer, but I have not used it yet.
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02-23-2021, 10:15 PM #15Registered User
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it would have to be zero F, (-18 C) and no wind for a Nano Air vest for skinning. Better as an additional layer for inbounds or descents.
Alpha front, thin fleece back is much better. Far less warm.
I got a very cheap Marmot vest with Alpha direct, and cut out the Alpha lining from the back.
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02-23-2021, 10:34 PM #16
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05-11-2021, 01:36 PM #17Registered User
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I did a bit of looking around and ended up settling on one of these https://www.mammut.com/us/en/product...ybrid-vest-men
I wanted polartec alpha with a lighterweight back which is exactly what this is. Haven't gotten it touring yet and might not this season, but seems perfect around the house. Pricey though.
Almost went with https://www.nwalpine.com/collections...insulated-vest but really wanted the hybrid construction.
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05-13-2021, 06:14 AM #18
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