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    Quote Originally Posted by Skidog View Post
    i work for a Managed Service Provider. We help companies handle any/all aspects of Computing infrastructure. Cloud, Disaster recovery, Backups, Windows, linux, etc. I really just am the head the customer gets to bite off if shit goes south. If you're in tech, work from home gigs have been around for a minute. Could I fuck off for a day? Maybe, but my works flexible anyway. Could be up all night with a problem/upgrade, or could be pretty bored for days at a time because nothing breaks at a client...
    I was hoping to be able to do this much more in my self employment, but it turned into a lot of installation (and sometimes removal) of equipment so I have to be onsite so I've been on unemployment. The government is buying my new bike, basically. I also get a retainer from a company that services Dell EMC stuff. I think it will turn out to be mostly enterprise stuff, not drooling on people's laptops (thankfully). My WFH is mostly trying to study the most boring shit ever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    All the free time newly minted WFH'ers have just confirms how much time was wasted in meetings, water cooler talk, etc.

    I've been a telecommuter so long, I still call it telecommuting and could easily work 25 hours a week of I didn't have to be a slave to my phone and email for immediate response to customers.
    So much this! Technology has made offices obsolete for so many. At this point, it's basically about your employer controlling you and getting use of the space they paid good money for. Corporate offices are depressing no matter how "fun" or "like family" a business says it is. Florescent lighting and sealed windows are not good for you. Commuting (far) is not good for you. Meetings can be an email or webcam chat, no need to get on a plane.
    I really do believe WFH is better for people and the planet (and therefore again more betterer for people because we live on the planet). So much just seems like it's about controlling a person 40-60 hours a week. Or maybe it's just a matter of habit. Whatever.
    No longer stuck.

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    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickwm21 View Post
    I always wonder the same....

    I know plenty of people that WFH and put in 40-60 hour weeks doing their job.

    But I know people that always seem to be out biking, skiing, etc. taking conference calls from the lodge between laps. So you are getting paid to not work? You work for a company so irresponsible to let that happen or not know that it is happening? How is that sustainable? Aren’t you worried what other terrible decisions that company is making? How else is the company you work for wasting money?

    My job is in the field so I am away from home at work all week. Working. Producing for my company so they can have revenue and I can pay my mortgage. So maybe I’m a little biased....


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    I have a couple of friends like that. They f--- around all day and always have. They view WFH as a godsend because they no longer have to lie or sneak around their bosses. Take calls from the beach, etc. Don't don't care and are slackers and think its funny like 12yr olds. And they are both in their 50's!

    Its people like this that are the reason no one can trust WFH to everyone and thus everyone must show up at the office to be fair.

    I view it as their bosses are equally incompetent for either being unaware or letting it go out of fear of confronting them.

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    Oh, and even if most of my work requires being physically there, there's still a fair amount of work from home/phone finding jobs, bidding on jobs, confirming I will be on the job as scheduled, bookkeeping, etc. Good thing most of Snowbowl has a cellphone signal and is close to town
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl_Mega View Post
    You can always tell when someone hasn't risen to a position where there is trust in their judgment. When you are the man, you don't have to explain your day. At some point, you are paying for my judgment, ability & methods, this is backed by a lifetime of demonstrable results.. you are not paying me for what you think I should be doing.
    I'm in IT Operations... and it's pretty much this.

    And if they didn't like it, they could can me. And I'd be OK with that.

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    Civil Engineer. I do a lot of redlining designs for my drafters to draft, explaining design intents and backchecking of reports and plans that my staff level engineers work on, and project coordination with clients. Essentially, its a mix of engineering design, project management for the client, and ensuring work gets distributed to the right people at the right times within my firm (honestly the most stressful part).

    I hate working from home, and go into the office 3 days a week still. I dont go to job trailer meetings on project sites anymore though as those usually consist of 6-8 people in a small trailer with bad ventilation all crowded around a single set of plans talking loudly. Even working from home im still required to be on my computer from 7am-4pm to handle contractor/client needs, and feed the many work mouths at my firm asking for more work, so its not like i can just wait till later after a pow day to do my work. Its still a typical day job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmm...pow! View Post
    With the pandemic driving remote workers into ski towns (and every other desirable place to live), it leaves those of us who actually need to show up to work wondering just what it is that you all do. I have visions of people that lack the basic knowledge of things like how to use a screwdriver or shovel a driveway making six figures by sitting on the couch and watching porn, commenting on tgr, and updating their instagram all day. If you just decided to not show up for a day or ten would anyone notice? Does your company actually need every one of those workers that's at home right now? What does your company even do? Is everyone just working for a "startup" making new apps that no one actually needs but people get them anyway just because they exist? Getting paid off posting your sprinter in cool places on instagram? Seriously, what the hell do you people do?
    WFH since March.

    Took back huge corporate website/intranet/client portal rebuild from vendors who came back to us in April that they'd underbid project. Completed in house (my house)

    Busier and worked harder than I have since I moved to the States 22 years ago.

    I did spend most of yesterday shoveling my driveway. If that's what you're doing for a living... you have my sympathy.
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    I extract frog gamete for cloning trials at the NIH Laboratory. I have been published in Toad Load Weekly 3 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Shirk View Post
    I extract frog gamete for cloning trials at the NIH Laboratory. I have been published in Toad Load Weekly 3 times.
    Makes shoveling snow seem like a reasonable career choice.
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    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    I work for a large medical reference lab and am transitioning to fully WFH doing data analysis and result reporting to clients. I was spending 60% of my time in the lab at a computer in a room with no windows and was planning to leave when I left Utah. I feel super fortunate that my boss wanted to keep me on and they replaced me with someone else in the lab. I also do a lot of admin stuff to help management. I was in the lab for 6 years before doing this or I probably wouldn't be able to do it.

    As long as I communicate and get my work done I can dip out in the middle of the day for a few hours, but I'm hourly and start my day at 5am. It can be a little boring but I hope it continues to work out in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl_Mega View Post
    You can always tell when someone hasn't risen to a position where there is trust in their judgment. When you are the man, you don't have to explain your day. At some point, you are paying for my judgment, ability & methods, this is backed by a lifetime of demonstrable results.. you are not paying me for what you think I should be doing.
    So much this! I manage our bridge construction division. My wife got a rare tenure proffesor position and since I have done my time and wanted her to be able to pursue the career she has worked so hard for I told my employer I was leaving. My immediate old school boss pretty much told me good luck and he understood. 2 days before my last day at work his boss (the VP) of the company called me and asked why I was leaving and why I couldn't do my job from home. I told no reason other than my old school boss. Long story short 2 phone calls later I am working remotely. Up until COVID I was traveling a lot but I did that any way. My job entails managing multiple locations in my region, estimators, engineers, drafters, project managers, etc...
    And honestly, I am more efficient from home. My people tend to make decisions for themselves when I am not right down the hall. There are very few things that cant be done with an email, a phone call or a Zoom meeting, if it requires more I buy a plane ticket. And I spend way less time bullshitting over the coffee pot. Bottom line the last 2 years of working from home has been my divisions most profitable.
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    ^I am also way more productive at home without any distractions. I can play fetch with my dogs every hour and still have more done at the end of the day.

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    IT. SAN Admin. I've been WFH for 13 years. If I forget to login, people will notice sooner rather than later. TRG is how I manage my ADHD.

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    American Light & Fixture.

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    ^ just kidding, I usually get first chair, ski for an hour or two, head back to the parking lot to grab some grub and a beer from the sprinter.

    so glad I wasn't a dentist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teleee View Post
    So much this! I manage our bridge construction division. My wife got a rare tenure proffesor position and since I have done my time and wanted her to be able to pursue the career she has worked so hard for I told my employer I was leaving. My immediate old school boss pretty much told me good luck and he understood. 2 days before my last day at work his boss (the VP) of the company called me and asked why I was leaving and why I couldn't do my job from home. I told no reason other than my old school boss. Long story short 2 phone calls later I am working remotely. Up until COVID I was traveling a lot but I did that any way. My job entails managing multiple locations in my region, estimators, engineers, drafters, project managers, etc...
    And honestly, I am more efficient from home. My people tend to make decisions for themselves when I am not right down the hall. There are very few things that cant be done with an email, a phone call or a Zoom meeting, if it requires more I buy a plane ticket. And I spend way less time bullshitting over the coffee pot. Bottom line the last 2 years of working from home has been my divisions most profitable.
    I never asked how that all went down. Good for you. I thought you were gonna be a sales douche with me, but noooo, you are still important.

    I agree with Carl. My old school management thinks the only way to sell is to be face to face. Covid, and the results my team has had, have changed their minds slightly. I am sure once the all clear is sounded, my boss will be asking how many calls we made that day again, just like the good old days in 2019. He really is clueless- a Taskmaster if I may use some of my newfound knowledge from this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warthog View Post
    I never asked how that all went down. Good for you. I thought you were gonna be a sales douche with me, but noooo, you are still important.
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    I was close, real close to joining your ranks. The one thing about working from home though is now I answer to my wife, I was WAY more important when I was working in the office!
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    Design and plan the things that non-WFH people build.

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    I asked bro the accountant who must go to the office how does his wife work

    well she is a WFH and i think he likes to get away from her
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    Quote Originally Posted by teleee View Post
    The one thing about working from home though is now I answer to my wife, I was WAY more important when I was working in the office!
    Seriously the biggest challenge. I had my best day in months today while my wife took a car in for a recall and ran errands. Been 80% or so remote for almost 15 years but the pandemic somehow gave me a taskmaster I didn't need.

    No one even noticed this is what the OP does on the job. Strong work, sir, bravo!

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    I'm the director of engineering for a company that builds high-value R&D hardware. I can work when or where I want as long as everything gets done. I plan every detail of my projects a year in advance, so my engineers know what they must deliver in each 2 week sprint. If I didn't show up for a while everything would be fine. I have a really solid team.

    Sometimes my boss has "helpful" ideas. Most of my day-to-day revolves around shielding my engineers from the whore's nightmare that would ensue if these ideas were ever implemented.

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    I had a friend who recently passed from cancer. I asked him why he was still working after amassing a generous net worth from two buyouts, and he told me it was totally worth it to get the fuck out, away from the wife and to do something. I know her, she's nice, but, I got it.

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    yeah I wondered this too seems like they have multiplied like rats this year the nice thing is they don't last long usually a year or two or three then replaced by another one just like them
    but what I don't get is all these work from home guys are pretty big dorks and they have hottie wives wtf? I usually ask the girls if they need a real man to call me my fingers aren't pointy more like broken and missing parts I smell like a man and not lotion and wear carharts and don't post at #vanlife but do post at #knock your brain against the headboard

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    My friend is a sysadmin and had no need to be anywhere near the telecom room most days, especially since he's already managing remote systems at other company locations. They let him work from home a little bit during lockdown then got him back into the office everyday as soon as they could. I told him it's bullshit, but he really enjoys how much he gets paid, so he puts up with bs.
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

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    Currently President - Vandalay Industries

    Hoping to get hired by Penske soon but if not there is always the Bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by timeo View Post
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    Keep your head up kid. You’ll make Assistant Regional Manager in no time.

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