Best "Budget" Lightweight 29er Wheelset?

**grskier** · 03-13-2021, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs

Diameter does not specifically refer to something that is round. It can be a measurement of a direct line between two surfaces.

di·am·e·ter | dīˈamədər |
noun
1 a straight line passing from side to side through the center of a body or figure, especially a circle or sphere.
• the length of the diameter of a figure, especially a circle or sphere.
• a transverse measurement of something; width or thickness.

Wow, been a while since we've had a good nerd fight.

**climberevan** · 03-13-2021, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong

ID means ‘Inner Dimension’, not ‘Inner Diameter’. This terminology isn’t unique to bikes. Packaging industry (think corrugated boxes) uses ID and OD as ‘inner dimension’ and ‘outer dimension’ as well. There are others.

This is the terminology the bike industry has chose to use. Get over it.

When referring to tubes and pipes, ID is Inner Diameter. Rims are much more like tubes than they are like cardboard boxes. Boxes use "interior dimension", anyway, not "inner dimension".

I don't think "the industry" has chosen to (mis)use ID this way. Wheel specs I've seen always say IW or just fully spell it out (Inner Width). Which wheel company uses "Inner Dimension" in their specs? Usually when I see ID it's when some JONG is trying to sell wheels and doesn't really know how to describe them.

It simply makes zero sense to refer to the width of rims with an acronym that includes "diameter" or "dimension" How is this even disputable?

**J. Barron DeJong** · 03-13-2021, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by climberevan

How is this even disputable?

Because you’re wrong?

If ID meant ‘interior dimension’, then you’d also use ‘ED’ - for exterior dimension. But it’s ID/OD - inner/outer. Saying interior/outer would be stupid.

The cross section of a rim is neither a tube, nor a pipe, and ID and OD in this case have nothing to do with diameter.

**smmokan** · 03-13-2021, 10:56 AM

Should we fight about clipless pedals next?

**bean** · 03-13-2021, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by smmokan

Should we fight about clipless pedals next?

When the correct answer is always “SPD” what is there to fight about?

**J. Barron DeJong** · 03-13-2021, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by bean

When the correct answer is always “SPD” what is there to fight about?

Agree. Fight me if you don’t.

**climberevan** · 03-13-2021, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by bean

When the correct answer is always “SPD” what is there to fight about?

I used to say this too, but the recent ones I've bought haven't lasted. I just swapped back to some ~15 year old XTs (stolen from the GF's gravel bike) because the 8000 XTs I just bought 8 months ago are worn out.

I think they are using lower quality metal for the clip parts. The part that holds the rear of the cleat it literally worn so that the notch has disappeared, meaning that they don't hold it in anymore. The ancient ones work perfectly, so it's not the cleat.

I'm going to try some Looks and see if they last better.

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**J. Barron DeJong** · 03-13-2021, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by climberevan

I used to say this too...I'm going to try some Looks and see if they last better.

Thems fightin’ words.

I suggest we do battle after skiing to the bottom of Long Trail Chute. If you choose to use poles without releasable straps, happen to tear an arm off, and need to fight one armed, that’s on you.