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01-30-2021, 09:20 PM #1Hungover & Homeless
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PC Ridgeline - Square Top
Not many details at the moment, but it doesn't sound good. Location is one drainage North, same aspect and elevation, as the Dutch Draw fatality three weeks ago.
"Rescue operations will resume on Sunday morning"
"The victim was located and dug out by a friend, who was able to perform CPR. The friend was able to make it down the mountain and is safe and unharmed."
https://kjzz.com/news/local/person-b...qWJzZDNii4DLiE
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01-30-2021, 10:25 PM #2
One dead. Potentially more buried. Seriously messed up. Square top on a high danger day.
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01-30-2021, 11:55 PM #3
Yesterday morning I can see a slide on the observer (lower) right at Square Top (run). Hard to imagine anyone decided to get on any backcountry terrain today. Vibes to affected family and friends. Please be safe everybody.
Last edited by CG_#3; 01-31-2021 at 12:47 AM.
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01-31-2021, 09:27 AM #4
Stupid decisions lead to stupid ways to die in stupid places.
(KUTV) — Unified Police say a man was caught in an avalanche at Millcreek Canyon on Saturday afternoon.
According to Det. Kevin Mallory, a call came in around 1:05 p.m. about a man who got caught in an avalanche near 8200 E. Millcreek Canyon Road.
A witness in the canyon saw the avalanche and a male skier or snowboarder caught up in the slide in the Gobbler's Knob area. The man was reportedly waving and yelling for help after getting caught up in the avalanche.
Search and Rescue teams were able to make their way to the victim and got him off the mountain. The man, who was stated to be in his 30's, was transported to the hospital in fair condition.
Det. Mallory said no other individuals were involved or injured in the avalanche.Main Gobblers - Northwest Aspect - 10,000 - Two skiers were caught, carried, and partially buried in an avalanche that broke 3-4' deep and 350' wide, Main Gobblers ran about 2000' vertical feet. The party sustained injuries but was able to self extract to where they were met by Search and Rescue.Last edited by Bunion 2020; 01-31-2021 at 10:45 AM.
I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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01-31-2021, 03:26 PM #5Minion
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Bu çok kötü bir haber ..
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01-31-2021, 05:00 PM #6
I hate to say this, a Park City guy, too. He definitely should have known better. Not judging, but both Canyons slack country deaths this year were Utards. This surprises me.
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01-31-2021, 08:04 PM #7
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01-31-2021, 09:47 PM #8Registered User
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01-31-2021, 10:21 PM #9
Does not surprise me. Same sitch in Colorado...methinks it’s a combo of Covid-coop-up and powder-fever in a year that has a shitty snowpack defined by a PWL
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02-01-2021, 02:42 AM #10
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02-01-2021, 11:34 AM #11
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02-01-2021, 02:04 PM #12
Kurt spent most every day up on the Ridgeline. he wasn't a regular in our group of misfits but we'd ski with him often; He was a Good guy that was always stoked and got after it.
That line on square top has always been a ticking time bomb due to its proximity of just a few yards from the "safe line" in the trees.
RIP Kurt
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02-01-2021, 03:27 PM #13
RIP Kurt indeed.
Skied with him some during my time in PC.I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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02-01-2021, 09:01 PM #14powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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02-02-2021, 10:15 PM #15
Referencing the other thread, people don't die on Portal or Angel's Landing every year, but they also don't die going out the 9990 gate every year. According to UAC data (roughly) and my memory, there have been, what, 5 Canyons slackcountry deaths in the last 15 years? Given how many knuckleheads go out that gate every freakin day, it is really remarkable that the number isn't higher. So, call it a death every 2-3 years on average. I really hope Vail doesn't make a stupid permanent decision based on short term memory. The ability to put in a little work and be in outstanding and expansive backcountry terrain off a lift is pretty unique, and is what keeps me coming back and getting a pass year after year. There are so many contexts in which people have to make decisions about their own safety that result in more carnage than this particular gate. That being said, it is Vail's decision, and I am frankly surprised that it hasn't closed the gate permanently already.
Also, as many of you have as well, I skied with Kurt on that ridgeline in the past and an really surprised he chose to ski that line on that day, walking by so many safer, available lines on the Squaretop nose that would have been a far better choice. A really puzzling, bad choice for an experienced skier than knew that ridgeline.
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02-03-2021, 04:57 AM #16Registered User
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02-03-2021, 08:28 AM #17Registered User
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02-03-2021, 08:40 AM #18
After reading the UAC report:
a) Kurt made a fatal decision.
b) As others have said, the partner did not want to ski lower Squaretop; Kurt should have respected that and not skied it either.
c) Personally I would've gotten on the bed surface and down to Kurt, but I've been working with avalanches a long time; I understand the partner's trepidation to do so.
d) And this is the big one. This partner is gonna second guess himself the rest of his life because of ultimately Kurt's lack of judgement.
I've dug a bunch of people out from under the snow over the years and understand the process of what the partner went through and the aftermath. It never gets easier.
Really feel for him and would love to reach out. If anybody has contact info. for said partner please pm me...Time spent skiing cannot be deducted from one's life.
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02-03-2021, 08:44 AM #19
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02-03-2021, 08:45 AM #20
Heartbreaking to read.
Shitty little pocket in a bad place and perhaps some complacency on the part of the victim because it was very familiar terrain.
And yes, very kind offer on your part JC.I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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02-03-2021, 08:51 AM #21
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02-03-2021, 08:59 AM #22
Evey time I look at the right side of Square Top I think how much it looks like the right side of Dutch Draw
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02-03-2021, 04:44 PM #23Hungover & Homeless
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02-03-2021, 05:52 PM #24
Splitting hairs but the The redpine chute fatality was inbounds.
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02-03-2021, 10:33 PM #25
the avalanche mitigation prior to recovery
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