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01-18-2021, 04:10 PM #1Registered User
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Troubleshooting Ski issues with the Lady
Hey all, looking to get some insight here..
My girlfriend got a touring setup this year and has been describing some goofy issues with the skis.
To preface: she's a solid blue/black skier at the resort and her resort skis are 169, Rocker/camber/Rocker skis that are 100 underfoot. She wanted a touring setup this year to go on some hut trips with me, ski mellow meadows, and just to get some exercise and harvest good turns. She's not a ripper but really enjoys it. Her current bc skis are some older Salomon QST 85s in a 167. I thought this would be a nice light/maneuverable ski for her.
The problem: She's describing the ski feels squirrely and unsupportive. She's not large, 5'5 130ish (?) and like a said, not a charger. I tried de-tuning the tips and tails, and giving the running edges a sharpen/some love.
Thoughts: Is she just not used to skiing the often janky snow you experience in the BC? (Dust over crust, heavy pow, etc) Her boots fit nice and tight and it's not a boot related issue to my understanding.
My thought is to find her a wider, well rockered ski to plane over the snow and easer her ride?
Thanks everyone!
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01-18-2021, 04:23 PM #2
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01-18-2021, 07:14 PM #4
My GF is a similar size/weight. I think I woulda stuck with the 100mm underfoot ski. Makes skiing jank and dust a lot easier and a lot more fun. More work going uphill, but at 100mm it's probably not that much considering your target terrain.
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01-18-2021, 07:15 PM #5
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01-18-2021, 07:17 PM #6
How big are her breasts?
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01-18-2021, 09:11 PM #9Registered User
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Check the tune on the skis, sounds like they may be base high...
Edited as I just read you sharpened the edges...
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01-19-2021, 09:04 AM #10Registered User
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01-19-2021, 09:07 AM #11Registered User
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01-19-2021, 09:12 AM #13Registered User
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01-19-2021, 09:48 AM #14
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01-19-2021, 10:22 AM #15
This! The base flatness and edge bevel would be the first thing to check as a base high ski feels VERY unstable. Feels like skiing on marbles if it’s bad enough.
Tell the shop you think they might be base high and they will stone grind them flat then set the base bevel at 1 degree(if it’s higher than 1 degree now it will feel more surfy but will be also reset down with a stone grind).
Binding Ramp can also be another factor because if it’s much larger than her other set up, she may feel like she’s “in the backseat” and feel out of control.
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01-19-2021, 10:24 AM #16
Skiing 85mm underfoot skis in the super variable BC conditions we have this year in CO sounds god awful and a good way for you to find yourself looking for a new girlfriend.
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01-19-2021, 10:26 AM #17Registered User
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01-19-2021, 10:26 AM #18Registered User
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01-19-2021, 10:51 AM #19Registered User
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If anything, you'd want to be shimming the toes, not the heels. Sounds like she has Speed Turns (not radicals) based on the heel description -- which have a big delta where the heel sits up really high. Shimming the toes on mine made me ski much better since it put me in a more balanced position. B&D sells the shims (and I think the longer screws necessary -- if not Slidewright has them.)
And if the ski is base high -- a base grind is the solution.
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01-19-2021, 11:08 AM #20Registered User
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Ladies have it made. If your GF is skiing on a ski that's 170 cm or shorter, I wouldn't worry too much about getting her a "touring ski." most women's skis are pretty light to begin with, have less metal than their men ski counterparts at least. My wife tours on the QST 99s and brags about how light her set up is.
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01-19-2021, 11:14 AM #21Registered User
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01-19-2021, 11:15 AM #22
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01-19-2021, 11:17 AM #23
Correct. Too much(heel too high) or too little forward lean from the different boot/binding combos may this.
Can try this test when she’s in her boots on flat ground and then re-test when she steps into the bindings on the two different skis. Then you’ll see the difference the touring boots or touring boot/bindings combined make. Might be able to adjust forward lean on the boot or shim the touring binding to compensate.
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01-19-2021, 11:20 AM #24
People have different levels of adaptability to ramp angle - the Speed Turn is 16mm, which is on the high side especially if she's got a small boot. Most people would prefer their touring stance to be the same or similar to their alpine stance, which is flatter. In general, most people walk better in flats than heels, and the same is true of skiing.
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01-19-2021, 12:40 PM #25
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