RIP Sylvain Sylvain, NY Dolls

[frorider]

69. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...-dead-1114962/

[Flounder]

Down to only one Doll remaining. RIP.

[Benny Profane]

How did he make it to 69?

[frorider]

Clean living. Like Keif.

[Timberridge]

Not familiar with this group. Were these Dolls from Upstate or Downstate NY?

Edit: Good lord, they sound like a band of 14 yr olds at a School of Rock concert.

[Benny Profane]

About as downstate as you can get.

[BmillsSkier]

Not familiar with this group. Were these Dolls from Upstate or Downstate NY?

Edit: Good lord, they sound like a band of 14 yr olds at a School of Rock concert.

You may be familiar with their lead singer, David Johansen, from his acting. Here as the Ghost of Christmas Past in Scrooged

[schindlerpiste]

....and Let It Ride (which is one of my favorite movies).

[schindlerpiste]

Makes me miss college and Hialeah

[ötzi]

I'm a little stunned that Timberridge was familiar with Brian McKight's oeuvre but not David Johhasson and Sylvain Sylvain's. I have to think about this.

[bagtagley]

....and Let It Ride (which is one of my favorite movies).

Every time I watched I had the slightest hope that Jennifer Tilly’s boobs would finally pop out of that red dress.

RIP Sylvain, long live Buster Poindexter!

[Flounder]

I'm a little stunned that Timberridge was familiar with Brian McKight's oeuvre but not David Johhasson and Sylvain Sylvain's. I have to think about this.

Apparently he's only an upstate music enthusiast.

[Woodsy]

Not familiar with this group. Were these Dolls from Upstate or Downstate NY?

Edit: Good lord, they sound like a band of 14 yr olds at a School of Rock concert.

Read this book:

exerpt:
"The Dolls took their name from the New York Doll Hospital, a toy repair shop across the street from a midtown boutique Mizrahi had worked in. Ditching his last name, he became simply Sylvain Sylvain; Genzale became Johnny Thunders. The Dolls played dives, gobbled up drugs, and loved playing dress-up, their fashion sense inspired in equal parts by the Max’s drag queens and Detroit glam rockers like Alice Cooper and the Stooges, in stacked heels, blouses, and makeup. They played simultaneously brute and campy rock ‘n’ roll that owed plenty to those bands – Thunders spewing metallic riffs, alternately squealing and spitting power chords, over Johansen’s sashaying street-punk hollers.

“Personality Crisis” was their defining song, summing up a zeitgeist where who you were on the street, in the club, and in the bedroom was infinitely, confusingly mutable. “You’re a prima ballerina on a spring afternoon,” sang Johansen. “Change into the wolfman, you’re howlin’ at the moon—OWOOOOOOOOO!”"

[Timberridge]

Apparently he's only an upstate music enthusiast.

True. I don't think they made it Upstate.

[BmillsSkier]

True. I don't think they made it Upstate.

And if they did, who's to say they knew where they actually were.

[Woodsy]

True. I don't think they made it Upstate.

a lot to unpack here...

[XXX-er]

Did they invent duck lips ?

[Brownski]

I used to know a guy that played with them for a short while after their heyday. He was a hired gun and apparently wasn’t with them long enough to even be listed on their Wikipedia page. I guess he didn’t make it onto any of their albums. He told me when he showed up for his first rehearsal, the original members went in the bathroom together and didn’t come out for about two hours. It was a one holler too.

[Benny Profane]

Read this book:

exerpt:
"The Dolls took their name from the New York Doll Hospital, a toy repair shop across the street from a midtown boutique Mizrahi had worked in. Ditching his last name, he became simply Sylvain Sylvain; Genzale became Johnny Thunders. The Dolls played dives, gobbled up drugs, and loved playing dress-up, their fashion sense inspired in equal parts by the Max’s drag queens and Detroit glam rockers like Alice Cooper and the Stooges, in stacked heels, blouses, and makeup. They played simultaneously brute and campy rock ‘n’ roll that owed plenty to those bands – Thunders spewing metallic riffs, alternately squealing and spitting power chords, over Johansen’s sashaying street-punk hollers.

“Personality Crisis” was their defining song, summing up a zeitgeist where who you were on the street, in the club, and in the bedroom was infinitely, confusingly mutable. “You’re a prima ballerina on a spring afternoon,” sang Johansen. “Change into the wolfman, you’re howlin’ at the moon—OWOOOOOOOOO!”"

Another excellent book about that period is Please Kill Me, an oral history of punk, which put them in the vanguard. https://www.amazon.com/Please-Kill-M.../dp/0802125360 Much about Johnny Thunders, another Doll, and the junkie saint of the Bowery.

Great stories. Really makes you appreciate Iggy is even alive, let alone out there.

[retirwntm]

Iggy, Keith etc prove that which does not kill you only makes you stronger.


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[Benny Profane]

a lot to unpack here...

Wow. That must have been some night. And then it's off to listen to Ginsberg.

[Woodsy]

Wow. That must have been some night. And then it's off to listen to Ginsberg.

Seems thats how shit went down in Buffalo in a venue "renowned for its acoustical excellence and graceful architecture"

[ötzi]

There was a lot of money in Buffalo for a while there. Lots of cool architecture and public spaces downtown. After WW2 it all started coming apart but up until then they were rolling.