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Thread: New Foot Scanner App
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01-27-2021, 08:01 PM #151
Hockey skates were a bitch to break in growing up, could only wear certain brands and ski boots have always been an adventure - any recs for a dedicated inbounds boot?
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01-27-2021, 08:21 PM #152
Its the right foot with the instep pressure. Probably from my foot being squeezed. Would you say the 28.5 is good or should I go 29.5?
I added a third picture to show the width behind my sixth to area that runs almost all the way to my heel.
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01-27-2021, 08:28 PM #153
Sorry to drop tech gloom, but I keep getting stuck not being able to enter my State when creating an account. I have reloaded the app already and still no go.
Wondering if I should try making my profile on the website first?
Using an iPhone. Anyone else run into this and found a solution?"Let's be careful out there."
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01-27-2021, 08:46 PM #154
Unfortunately I can't see the shape of your forefoot very well in these views (my commercial account lets me rotate to get a direct top view but you can't do it on your phone), but assuming you have a normal distribution of toe pressure at the front of the boot, have a good footbed, and good retention at the ankle, I would hold out for 28.5. The extra width running all the way back past the styloid process can be achieved by punching.
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01-28-2021, 01:08 AM #155Registered User
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Not sure if its been said yet but Fischer also has an app for scanning feet. It only shows a 3d image of my left foot, but gives measurements for length, ball width, instep height, navicular height, and heel width for both feet.
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01-28-2021, 09:48 AM #156Dad core
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01-29-2021, 08:59 AM #157
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01-30-2021, 07:51 AM #158Registered User
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Got it working in the UK.
Interesting app - especially coming from someone who is mostly a climber, and has years and years of ramming my feet into odd-shaped contortionist shoes and finding by intuition that my left foot is about 5mm longer.
Boots
Alpine - 26.5 Hawx Prime 120s's with superfeets and I've not needed a punch on these.
Touring - Struggling. I've been jumping around trying to get heel hold without 6th toe or 5th met pain. I've got wide, but low volume and low instep feet.
Tried:
1. 28 Vulcans with intuition classic wraps (comfortable, but too long).
2. 27.5 Vulcans with stock liners (6th toe punch and met punch, good until the boots just died of old age).
3. 27.5 MTN Explores - great length and width, still felt like foot and ankle swimming.
4. 26.5 MTN Labs with 6th toe punch - good heel hold but I think for long tours my toe will take a bashing the end of the boot too much.
5. 26.5 Maestrale RS's; length feels ok but 5th met pain as soon as buckled (loose as I can get) and I still get heel lift.
Am I downsizing too much? 27.5 / 310+ bsl boots seem to leave me with like a 2cm shell fit.
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01-30-2021, 08:58 AM #159
I think 27.5 is the right call for a touring boot.
MTN boots have a cavernous ankle and heel pocket but a pointy toebox (a shape rarely found in feet). Vulcan/Mercury wasn't exactly snug either.
The app doesn't show ankle volume, but there is every chance one of the current boots like a Hawx Ultra XTD (same width as your Prime if you go 27.5) or Tecnica Zero G Tour Pro will work and fit your ankle/midfoot more accurately. Hoji Free would also be an improvement.
PS Could you post left side and right side screenshots as well? Thanks!
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01-30-2021, 09:52 AM #160
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01-30-2021, 10:01 AM #161
Most shops rely on a traditional Brannock device, which typically gives you a measurement 5-9mm longer. All of the digital scanners are pretty close (Sidas, Fischer, Verifyt) - shorter, but consistently so.
You have to be specific when asking someone how they measured their feet (simply putting your heel on the floor against the wall and making a mark is usually in between).
Using the Brannock number normally results in what I term "average fit" while using the number produced by Verifyt/Sidas gives you an "expert fit" - you just have to adjust to whatever measurement system you are using. Shellfit, on the other hand, is what it is - I like to measure it in millimeters, not "dowels" using a known object like my 15mm finger.
PS Could you also post screenshots from the front and right side? Thanks!
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01-30-2021, 10:06 AM #162
You mean a full size different between left and right? Hard to say, though the curve at the bottom of the tray in a Brannock pushes your foot forward by varying amounts based on the shape of your heel. Also I've found that "creeping" your foot forward to align it with the blue VR curves on the app scrunches up your foot a few millimeters, it is more accurate if you lift your foot or at least the forefoot after you hit the right position to let it stretch out.
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01-30-2021, 10:09 AM #163
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01-30-2021, 10:12 AM #164
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01-30-2021, 10:13 AM #165
Thanks, Eddy. Can you get someone to punch the toe on the left boot?
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01-30-2021, 10:17 AM #166Registered User
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Hi buddy. Thanks for the reply and suggestions. I worry about the 27.5 hawx, bsl is like 312 and that means 2+cm behind my heel? The 26.5/27 maestrale has about 1-1.5cm.
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01-30-2021, 10:27 AM #167
New Foot Scanner App
Not sure if you are talking my boots or hers. I’ve had mine punched. They don’t want to punch more as they say they are worried it’ll interfere with the binding. I’ve made peace with the length but I think I want some more width right across the end of the toes. My left big toenail digs into my second toe.
For her, punch for width for sure. She’d be in permanent pain without that punch on left.Last edited by EWG; 01-30-2021 at 02:42 PM.
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01-30-2021, 05:09 PM #168
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01-30-2021, 10:53 PM #169
In the context of the other 75 scans I've collected, this data indicates to me that you have a moderately wide foot with a very tall instep; best bets are an average width boot (100mm or so) with a tall instep or potential for creating instep space through grinding, heat molding, etc. Dalbello Lupo AX definitely fits that description, also potentially a good match would be an Atomic Hawx Prime XTD (assuming you want a tourable boot that skis well).
Could you post screenshots of your feet from the left and right sides as well to confirm the instep issue?
Thanks, one of our managers also reported failures with an iPhone 7 . . .
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01-30-2021, 11:02 PM #170
BSL and interior length are not directly correlated; I have 26.5 boots with BSL's from 287 to 310, and the interior length varies by only a few millimeters . . . the Hawx boots tend to run short compared to other brands that "break on the whole number" (e.g. 26.0 and 26.5 are the same boot) and are hard to compare to Scarpa, which breaks on the half (26.5 and 27.0 are the same). It is best to put your foot in the actual shell.
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01-30-2021, 11:15 PM #171
Yep, tall instep & wide forefoot
Here’s the L & R
The AX was a surprise successful fit for me & I now am skiing it exclusively inbounds & out. I tried it on a hunch that the 3pc shell would cinch my foot back into the heel pocket best without crushing my instep, like the Lange sx120s did...they were never quite right even with tongue grinding & punches to the width.
but I do wonder what you might suggest to try in the alpine boot world...
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01-30-2021, 11:18 PM #172
Thank the wife for me. Yeah, Salomon S/Max or Lange RX LV are probably the best bets, Atomic Hawx Ultra may be a bit tall in the instep. Flex is pretty personal; if she is happy in the 90 so be it. Unfortunately both boots skip the 100 flex, going directly to 110 or 115 from 90 to 95.
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01-30-2021, 11:21 PM #173
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01-31-2021, 12:03 PM #174
How much space is there between the end of the boot toe and the housing on your binding with the boot in the ski? You only need a tiny gap, but I've had to reheat and retract and/or grind material off the toe where it's been punched to get some boots to test out properly on the Wintersteiger.
It is entirely possible to punch for extra space on the medial side of the big toe as well as for length, you just need a bootfitter who's figured out the right setup.
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02-01-2021, 04:28 PM #175Registered User
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