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Thread: New Foot Scanner App
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03-07-2021, 09:22 PM #276
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03-08-2021, 03:19 AM #277
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03-09-2021, 02:20 PM #278
Looks like the Android version of the app is no longer on the Play store...link from the first page of this thread (and NetVirta's site) is dead. Hope it comes back!
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03-09-2021, 05:53 PM #279
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03-10-2021, 11:21 AM #280Registered User
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Currently using Lange XT3 130. Like the boot but can’t keep water out of the seam on top of my foot. It is like there isn’t enough material overlap. Previously had good luck with the OG Cochise. Thinking of trying the 2022 Cochise 130 when it is available. Thoughts?
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03-10-2021, 04:48 PM #281
I'm not surprised, you have about 8-10mm of instep height that most people in a 27.5 don't have. Amazing that you can even buckle the boot with the stock buckle placement or have any bloodflow to your toes, for that matter.
You might try cutting the whole front of the bootboard off and grinding off the two nubs in the shell that keep it from sliding forward (will mess with your ramp angle a bit, adding about 1.5 degrees, but no worse than adding a heel wedge like many bootfitters do for a variety of reasons, and it will get you way more volume in the forefoot. You can shim the toepiece of your binding to bring the ramp back to default if need be.
I haven't had the 2022 Cochise on my foot, so not sure about the "overlap" - I hear Atomic is adding some material to the flaps of the Hawx boots for this reason next year.
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03-10-2021, 05:15 PM #282Registered User
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03-10-2021, 05:21 PM #283
26.5? Even worse in terms of shell volume, then - I was just comparing it to "average" feet in the 27.xx mondo range.
If you have a craft knife and a belt sander, it costs you nothing - if you want to sell the boot afterward, order another set of bootboards from Lange. You already own the XT3, right?
I would also try heat molding it, as you would with an Atomic or Salomon boot. In theory, the Lange shells are not heat moldable, but in practice it pulls all the hardware out to the limit and gives you some more usable volume.
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03-13-2021, 11:30 AM #284
I once again have a working Verifyt Business Account, so if anyone wants to share their data (and doesn't feel like sharing it on the thread), PM me for the email address. Thanks, all.
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03-13-2021, 12:53 PM #285
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03-14-2021, 04:23 PM #287Registered User
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These are the feet of my buddy with the most boot trouble in our group. He's in 25/25.5 Fischer RC Pro 110s right now with with a claimed 100mm width that he really likes, not sure if the fancy vaccuum process is better at widening the boot than any other moulding process. Looking for something more useful for sidecountry for him, the natural thought would be Fischer Rangers, but there isn't a single shop in the Vancouver area that carries Fischer stuff, and they're a bit heavy anyway. Any thoughts on other things that might work for him? Nobody has any stock of anything here so we're probably restricted to buying something online on a hope and a prayer and fitting afterwards at Intuition if need be. Thinking the Prime XTD 130?
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03-14-2021, 10:07 PM #288
What sort of trouble has buddy had? Just getting the forefoot wide enough?
None of the heat molding or vacuum technologies alone is enough to make a 100mm 25.5 boot fit his 110.9mm right foot, you need a bootfitter to augment it with manual punching. Tom at Intuition should have no problem with that. The Atomic Hawx Prime 120/130 XTD is a good call; you can get much of the way there with just the Memory Fit heat mold and punch for the rest. If he's doing a lot of actual touring in the boot, he might consider moving to a 26.5 (the Atomic boots tend to run a little short). Tecnica Zero G Tour Pro could also work with bootfitter assistance, is lighter and tours a bit better IMO but all the shell modifications will need to be done manually.
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03-16-2021, 10:08 AM #289
I was making a joke with the size 27. It was extremely tight, but I’m a masochist that believes if you aren’t in pain while skiing and getting black toe you’re doing it wrong. It was very difficult to even ram my foot in there, and I was wearing the thin Dissent pro tour socks. Without the liner, I was almost touching the heel with my toes brushing the front.
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03-18-2021, 12:15 PM #290Registered User
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03-19-2021, 07:48 AM #291
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03-19-2021, 08:40 AM #292
This app seems quite accurate for my feet in terms of size, relative length and volume (L>R) and overall instep height (that’s usually where I’ve had a problem with boots.
Currently my main touring boot is a ZGTP 25.5 that has been the most comfortable and required the least work of any touring boot I’ve had in the last 15 years (Maestrale RS 2 25.5/26; TLT 6 26/26.5; Black diamond Prime 26/26.5; Megaride 26/26.5)
Resort/side country boots are 25.5 Dalbello Lupo Ax HD with tour wraps. Haven’t even gotten those molded yet (Covid and not being in the resort more than a few days this season). Those are fitting quite well too.
Long day/light boots are F1s in 26.5/27. This is definitely more of a comfort fit. But I can wear the boots around camp and for 12 hours at time without wanting to chop my feet off.
I know this data is being collected on a large scale by the app company. It would be interesting to formalize data collection within the TGR community. I could see tech talk threads popping up similar the the 300g binding discussion except based on foot dimensions.
Really pleased by this app and the data.
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03-19-2021, 09:01 AM #293
Thanks for playing, Sam. The app was originally intended as an aid to retailers selling street shoes and apparel (there is a body scanning app as well); the company is based in Boston and Singapore and they don't really know much about skiing. I'm currently building a collection of scans and trying to figure out how to use the data in terms of selling ski boots online, but I'm not sure anyone else is doing the same. If you could post left and right side views of your feet as well that would be great.
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04-09-2021, 04:30 PM #294
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04-15-2021, 12:45 PM #298King potato
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Greg have you seen the 2022 cochise yet?
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04-15-2021, 01:28 PM #299
New Foot Scanner App
So, currently in a 24.5 Cochise with an eighth inch shim. Still too much volume. Would a HV liner get me where I need to be?
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04-15-2021, 11:02 PM #300
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