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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirshredalot View Post
    He seems like an easy guy to root for, but the Sox still look pretty bad this year. I suppose we will see!

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    hope they let him catch. Only position he hasnt played in a live game

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    Nobody is getting into the Hall this year, unless voters change drastically from prior behavior.
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Nobody is getting into the Hall this year, unless voters change drastically from prior behavior.
    Thanks a lot 2021.
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    Schilling may lose out for being a dick. I'm not so torn about that. Because he's a dick.

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    Holy shit, Mets in big for Bauer?

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    It's a good thing to have a billionaire who knows how to raise money and is a very competitive human as your owner.

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    So the writers looked at all these guys and said, nope, none of these guys are HoF worthy. 4 even sent back blank ballots.

    I love the traditions of the game but this process is idiotic.

    Is it the Hall Of Fame where the best postseason pitcher, the Cy Young record holder and one of the two greatest SS to play the game, aren’t good enough?

    Or is it the Hall of Good Guys whose past bad acts are far enough removed or inconsequential to the writers?
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    There are 3 hall worthy. Maybe a fourth. I think the hall of very good election is in September.
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    Schilling is such a whiney bitch. Asks not to be considered next year, his last. Writers probably chuckle. Bye bye, Curt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    There are 3 hall worthy. Maybe a fourth. I think the hall of very good election is in September.
    Benny's All-PED and Major League Baseball Hall of the Amazing and Almost-great Bar and Grill, featuring the frozen head of Ted Williams, sounds better and better by the day.
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    MLB HOF is a joke if it doesnt include
    the man with the most hits all time
    the man with the most home runs of all time
    the man with the 3rd most stike outs all time

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    I was completely confused by number 3 and had to look it up. How in the fuk is Nolan Ryan not in the HoF. Fuck those guys. Thatís ridiculous. The other two are ridiculous two btw. At least there is a bs excuse behind leaving out 1 and 2, but whats the deal w Ryan? Did he fuck someoneís mom? Or maybe Robin Ventura had him blackballed?

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    Didnít Ryan get it first ballot?

    Iím a yes for Bonds Clemens Manny. Schilling Iím borderline on. Fuck the rest.
    Decisions Decisions

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    Ryan got 98% in 1999

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcski View Post
    I was completely confused by number 3 and had to look it up. How in the fuk is Nolan Ryan not in the HoF. Fuck those guys. That’s ridiculous. The other two are ridiculous two btw. At least there is a bs excuse behind leaving out 1 and 2, but whats the deal w Ryan? Did he fuck someone’s mom? Or maybe Robin Ventura had him blackballed?
    Ryan is in, here is top 20 strikeouts all time. + means HOF



    1. Nolan Ryan+ (27) 5714 R
    2. Randy Johnson+ (22) 4875 L
    3. Roger Clemens (24) 4672 R
    4. Steve Carlton+ (24) 4136 L
    5. Bert Blyleven+ (22) 3701 R
    6. Tom Seaver+ (20) 3640 R
    7. Don Sutton+ (23) 3574 R
    8. Gaylord Perry+ (22) 3534 R
    9. Walter Johnson+ (21) 3509 R
    10. Greg Maddux+ (23) 3371 R
    11. Phil Niekro+ (24) 3342 R
    12. Fergie Jenkins+ (19) 3192 R
    13. Pedro Martinez+ (18) 3154 R
    14. Bob Gibson+ (17) 3117 R
    15. Curt Schilling (20) 3116 R
    16. CC Sabathia (19) 3093 L
    17. John Smoltz+ (21) 3084 R
    18. Justin Verlander (16, 37) 3013 R
    19. Jim Bunning+ (17) 2855 R
    20. Mickey Lolich (16)

    my point is Bonds, Clemens, Rose gotta be in no matter their sins. Astericks em ,whatever but you cannot erase history. until they are, the hall is a joke

    Manny, as much as I love him, is borderline even with out the PEDs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    Manny, as much as I love him, is borderline even with out the PEDs
    This is the most incorrect thing ever written on this board. Where the fuck is Ice. The best right handed hitter in the league for 10 years. The best right handed hitter maybe since DiMaggio.

    Iím actually pissed off now.
    Decisions Decisions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    MLB HOF is a joke if it doesnt include
    the man with the most hits all time
    the man with the most home runs of all time
    the man with the 3rd most stike outs all time

    Well, it does. Somewhere. It's just that those guys don't have a plaque, and got a speech on the lawn. Not a member of a very exclusive club. Sorry.
    First time I went to the HOF, Ricky Henderson was everywhere when they talked about numbers, but, he still hadn't retired yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    This is the most incorrect thing ever written on this board. Where the fuck is Ice. The best right handed hitter in the league for 10 years. The best right handed hitter maybe since DiMaggio.

    I’m actually pissed off now.
    And always had Papi in the lineup to protect him, and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Landers View Post
    This is the most incorrect thing ever written on this board. Where the fuck is Ice. The best right handed hitter in the league for 10 years. The best right handed hitter maybe since DiMaggio.

    Iím actually pissed off now.
    His defense was horrendous and it was a really high-offense era. And it's not like he brought anything in terms of baserunning skill.

    If you want to compare him to Frank Thomas or Edgar Martinez, that's how he would get in. But I'm not sure you can make the case that he was better. And the roids and general clown/asshole status count for something.

    Anyhow, I'm fond of the guy because of what he meant to the '03-'04 Sox, but he's borderline for the Hall if we are going to be honest about it.

    I'm also fine with Schilling sitting out. It's one thing to be a dick. It's another to define your entire life and career around being a dick, and he's committed himself to the latter.

    I'd put Clemens and Bonds in, though.

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    Edgar Martinez hit 30hr ONCE. In a high offense era! punching Judy hitter. And a DH.
    Manny ďhadĒOrtiz for 2004 to half of 2007. He didnít get that 8 year $160m contract (which he earned every penny) in 2002 because of Ortiz....he was a fucking STUD before even coming to the Red Sox. What does ďhaveĒ mean anyway...manny was still hitting .300/40/120 annually anyway no matter who was there. Triple crown level shit.

    Iím in the ďbest playersĒ camp. Manny was the best hitter in the league (or at worst top 3) for many years. Him coming to the plate stops people from taking a shit.

    And if you put Clemens and bonds in, whereís the threshold for morals? A rod? Piazza? Ty Cobb? Are you not putting schilling in because he rants on Twitter? Thatís some soft shit.
    Decisions Decisions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirshredalot View Post
    His defense was horrendous and it was a really high-offense era. And it's not like he brought anything in terms of baserunning skill.

    If you want to compare him to Frank Thomas or Edgar Martinez, that's how he would get in. But I'm not sure you can make the case that he was better. And the roids and general clown/asshole status count for something.

    Anyhow, I'm fond of the guy because of what he meant to the '03-'04 Sox, but he's borderline for the Hall if we are going to be honest about it.

    I'm also fine with Schilling sitting out. It's one thing to be a dick. It's another to define your entire life and career around being a dick, and he's committed himself to the latter.

    I'd put Clemens and Bonds in, though.

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    Reggie is similar in awful defense, strikeouts, and base running.

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    Manny didnít strike out a lot. And I thought he was very aloof but actually didnít think his defense was terrible. Decent arm, pretty accurate quick release, played the monster ok. You see the highlights and itís like- oh this moron is awful! Happened a few times for sure but he threw more people out at second base than anyone else playing the wall since yaz
    Decisions Decisions

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    The reasoning for not putting this guy in or that guy in because he was a dick is a weak argument considering Ty Cobb has been in there forever.

    Meanwhile, MLB, via the Cubs, are going forward with putting the first sportsbook in one of its stadiums while those guys in the hall keep acting like Pete isn't the hit king.

    (Yes, I know Pete is his own worst enemy and probably could have negotiated his way back had he just not been Pete, but that's not really the point, is it?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    Ryan is in, here is top 20 strikeouts all time. + means HOF



    1.Nolan Ryan+ (27)5714R
    2.Randy Johnson+ (22)4875L
    3.Roger Clemens (24)4672R
    4.Steve Carlton+ (24)4136L
    5.Bert Blyleven+ (22)3701R
    6.Tom Seaver+ (20)3640R
    7.Don Sutton+ (23)3574R
    8.Gaylord Perry+ (22)3534R
    9.Walter Johnson+ (21)3509R
    10.Greg Maddux+ (23)3371R
    11.Phil Niekro+ (24)3342R
    12.Fergie Jenkins+ (19)3192R
    13.Pedro Martinez+ (18)3154R
    14.Bob Gibson+ (17)3117R
    15.Curt Schilling (20)3116R
    16.CC Sabathia (19)3093L
    17.John Smoltz+ (21)3084R
    18.Justin Verlander (16, 37)3013R
    19.Jim Bunning+ (17)2855R
    20.Mickey Lolich (16)

    my point is Bonds, Clemens, Rose gotta be in no matter their sins. Astericks em ,whatever but you cannot erase history. until they are, the hall is a joke

    Manny, as much as I love him, is borderline even with out the PEDs
    Thx. I didnít notice you wrote 3rd and then when I looked up Ryan on Wikipedia it didnít list HoF under accomplishments. So I was beyond wtf. Clemens though - i understand leaving him out. Fuck that asshole. Lol

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    This gets to my whole point
    HOF is bullshit at this point

    No reason to argue about Manny and whether his defensive liability was over come by his amazingly consistent great hitting if you are not going to allow a better hitter with the most HRs of all time in for suspected PED use when Manny got popped for it 2x. ( although in fairness, what did Manny miss 180 games? Imagine his lifetime stats if you tack those games on.)

    I said he was borderline, not a lock, might deserve it, might not, but we cant even have that argument because, see above point.

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