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12-29-2020, 10:11 PM #26
What was his level of experience and what source do you have for your answer? Honest question. I've heard he was an accomplished climber from Boulder.
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12-29-2020, 10:27 PM #27
https://www.facebook.com/darek.krol.568
He appears to have been an experienced skier, climber, ice climber, etc. Definitely someone who owns gear and should have known what he was getting into.powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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12-30-2020, 08:12 AM #28
a momentary lapse of reason
picked up a hitcher heading from WP to LL on a storm chase. Nice local guy, a carpenter on a dawn patrol before work. If it's the chute I'm thinking of it's prominent low lying fruit easily accessed by car shuttle. Tagged along on his second run. It was a sweet run. A hasty pit looked good. Got a release of the over night snow which did not propagate with a ski cut at the top. There are so many sweet looking chutes and faces wherever your home zone is that call out. Be vigilant follow protocol don't let low lying fruit lure you into delusion.
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12-30-2020, 10:26 AM #29Registered User
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12-30-2020, 10:31 AM #30
Wright/Gilmour/Mason. No Waters cause he is a bitter old fuck. You know, the PF version of Benny.
I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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12-30-2020, 12:56 PM #31
as I already noted, I retracted my first statement and said that I am not sure about him being an experienced skier, I may have misunderstood what I saw on FB. I saw him described by a very experienced skier in a post about skiing as "one of Boulder's finest", but realize that I could have misinterpreted that and it might not mean anything related to his skiing. Still, a 57 year old guy who has lived in Colorado for what appears to be a long time, and skis, would be hard pressed to know nothing about avalanches. But that doesn't mean he was a very experienced backcountry skier, which is why I backed off my first statement.
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12-30-2020, 01:09 PM #32
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12-30-2020, 02:32 PM #33guy who skis
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Final report is up. https://avalanche.state.co.us/caic/a...=766&accfm=inv
Super, super weak snow. Significant traumatic injuries. RIP.
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12-30-2020, 03:59 PM #34
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/12/3...adliest-month/
This says he is an experienced skier, but not an experienced backcountry skier. So just the kind of accident people have been worried about this year.
I edited my posts in this thread to note that my earlier description of him as supposedly experienced were incorrect.Last edited by Danno; 12-30-2020 at 09:55 PM.
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"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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12-30-2020, 05:29 PM #35
Couldn't read because paywall but....
Then what does it take to be experienced? On his FB page there are numerous pictures of him booting up couloirs and skinning/skiing in the backcountry. He's been doing it for years. Ice climbers also have to be aware of avalanche risk.
For instance, I know anyone off the street can buy an airbag, but it would be unusual.
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12-30-2020, 05:55 PM #36Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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12-30-2020, 06:01 PM #37
I only know what the article said (you can get around the paywall if needed). Relevant snippets:
His death offers a cautionary tale: While an expert skier, Krol was far less experienced outside resort boundaries.
He recently bought a backcountry touring setup, said a close friend, Ed McKeown.
“He was not a savvy backcountry guy,” McKeown lamented of his friend, who was so attentive to detail in climbing and other endeavors.
Regardless of those details, the facts are that he went solo and he didn't have gear with him. And tragically died."fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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12-30-2020, 06:06 PM #38
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12-30-2020, 06:12 PM #39
I haven't skied it but looks like a terrain trap, no?
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12-30-2020, 06:18 PM #40
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12-30-2020, 06:37 PM #41
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12-30-2020, 08:16 PM #42powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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12-30-2020, 08:36 PM #43Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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12-30-2020, 08:55 PM #44
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12-30-2020, 09:29 PM #45Registered User
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I've sold more full backcountry set ups to older, experienced (self admittedly in-bounds) skiers this season than any other demographic.
I believe, this group is at a particularly elevated risk this season. They are approaching retirement age (aka lots of extra time), well-funded, and have the desire to avoid the COVID crowds in the resort. My dad is one of the these folks. I've had to talk him out of going solo touring on, "terrain he skied a hundred times when berthoud was a ski resort."
I just try my best to remind folks that education the the best way to avoid avalanches and to stay safe out there.
RIP Darek Krol. Vibes to all who knew him.
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12-30-2020, 09:34 PM #46
That's interesting and scary.
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12-31-2020, 01:13 AM #47Registered User
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Big difference between evaluating hazards in spring mountaineering season vs. early winter in a continental snowpack. Also (as we all know) plenty of people with years of experience make mistakes (usually getting away with it, occasionally not).
Originally Posted by Danno
Obviously a talented guy, putting up 5.13b routes in his late 50s is impressive. RIP.
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12-31-2020, 01:21 AM #48
Yeah but we're not, or at least I'm not talking about that level of experience. I'm talking about having enough experience to know to check the forecast. Enough to know that three people had died in the recent week as a result of the sketchy pack.
One thing that has been biting at me as well is the possibility of having a few beers. Holiday weekend hanging out at the pass with the family. I would be.powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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12-31-2020, 07:27 AM #49Banned
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There's really no place in this thread for a baseless accusation about drug-induced impairment being responsible.
A lot of people are more principled than you when it comes to saving intoxicants for AFTER they've finished their ski days. Touring and impaired judgement don't mix. Leave that shit at home. The beers don't get cracked until the truck is unloaded, the gear is put away, and I'm out of my ski clothes.
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12-31-2020, 08:39 AM #50
While, I agree with you about the victim and the beers thing, a commitment to having the truck unloaded before wetting the whistle is robbing yourself of one of the simple pleasures of skiing.
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