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02-27-2021, 07:56 AM #776Registered User
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I’m kind of the same way but with PowerWrap. I never even bother to try the stock liners.
How do you uses your booster strap? Straight up power strap replacement over the cuff, or under the cuff which sounds kind of weird to me. I’ve never got around to trying one but have one on my workbench.
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02-27-2021, 07:57 AM #777Registered User
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Except the current offerings from zipfit all walk like shit and the cork moves around the achilles area when you use them for touring.
The lange is kinda cool, but if it fits like a boat why bother, its not even that light. If I’m going to be forced to ski in a boot that fits like trash while touring it’s sure as hell going to be lighter than 1500 grams that way its at least good on the uphill.
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02-27-2021, 08:06 AM #778
Looks like a dumbed down Invictus 108 ti. The original Invictus was such a great, overlooked ski.
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02-27-2021, 08:25 AM #779Registered User
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Agreed. I only use zipfits for lifts and hiking, not touring. Foam or solid cork (like the nordica cork liner which I prefer to Lange foam liners) is better for touring.
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02-27-2021, 08:38 AM #780Registered User
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Consumerism creates perverse incentives. To maximize sales, stock liners are designed to fool consumers by looking impressive and optimizing shop fit but are otherwise disposable. In a world where long term comfort and performance mattered (and I have seen this in a few rare cases) ski boots would be sold as shell only (and priced accordingly), and would be fitted with an appropriate (to the users anatomy and intended use) custom liners.
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02-27-2021, 08:42 AM #781Registered User
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I use the World Cup over the cuff. Tighten so it’s firm and a few cinches in to just barely start the stretch but not super tight.
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02-27-2021, 08:47 AM #782Registered User
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02-27-2021, 09:07 AM #783Registered User
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Is there any info about new avy packs with Alpride Electronic system?
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02-27-2021, 09:18 AM #784
I dunno. I think the shell fits great. It’s definitely nicer then the hoji free I just sold. And walks better. Might weigh a little more then some of the true tech boots but I can tell you that the xt3 and xt tour ski way better then a lot of true tour boots.
I hear a lot about Achilles movement and all this other stuff. Maybe I’m doing it wrong but both my pairs of xt’s are set up so that I can walk with full motion with my top two buckles closed. Opening them does nothing for my motion. If my top buckles had to stay open I don’t know how I wouldn’t have blisters or hot spots on my heels, but I can tell you that my Achilles doesn’t move around. But like I said. Maybe I’m doing it wrong.
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02-27-2021, 10:40 AM #785
This is the problem I am looking to solve, particularly the cork moving issue. Intuitions do not work for me. However I’ve heard that ZipFit is developing a touring model for next year with articulation (as per Instagram). Does anyone have more info? Hopefully the cork chambers are altered as well to keep it from flowing rearwards when walking. They’ll still be heavy though I assume.
FWIW I use Zipfits exclusively. for resort, sledskiing and touring. These days I don’t do long tours though.
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02-27-2021, 08:19 PM #786
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02-27-2021, 09:12 PM #787Registered User
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02-27-2021, 10:29 PM #788Registered User
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So let me get this straight, you tour with your too buckles done up, in zip fit liners?
You’re definition of touring seems vastly different than mine. The achilles talk was about the cork moving around not your actual achillesmoving, but with zipfits and the top buckles done up your range of motion is probably like 20 degrees in walk mode so no wonder you don’t notice it moving.
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02-27-2021, 11:05 PM #789Registered User
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Completely disagree on the buckles. I see people doing some weird and awkward shuffle with their buckles done up all the time. It’s just not how touring boots are designed to be used.
And without having actually seen it or tried it on I don’t understand your point on this liner - the top one with orange looks pretty similar to the actual profile of my heel - way more so than the bottom one with the squared off heel shape.
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02-27-2021, 11:28 PM #790
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Great story. Thanks for the uneducated assessment. I never made a proclamation that I used zip fits for touring. Just to buy an aftermarket like an adult. I have an intuition tour wrap in them now. And yes. With the top buckles closed in the losest setting they stay closed and there is no difference in the range of motion as opening them. I assume you have you foot in the boot as well so you are speaking from complete experience?
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02-27-2021, 11:56 PM #791Rod9301
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02-28-2021, 12:22 AM #792Rod9301
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02-28-2021, 10:45 AM #793Registered User
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I guess this is what I have never understood. How do you have that bulky strap behind the shell and not have a load of space between the liner and shell.
Seems like the method you describe would have play before the shell actually started to flex?
Edit: sorry I should also say thanks for your insight!
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02-28-2021, 10:58 AM #794Registered User
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02-28-2021, 12:12 PM #795Registered User
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02-28-2021, 01:20 PM #796Rod9301
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02-28-2021, 02:04 PM #797Registered User
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Unless they changed it the booster strap is layers of neoprene sewn togetehr at their ends into the strap,
so if its too strong for you its very easy to just cut one layer and then you got the next model down
I forget which model I have but its got 3 layers
unless you are pretty slight i would just go for the WCLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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03-01-2021, 10:09 PM #799Registered User
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