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  1. #21876
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    We're between 7 and 5 days in here.
    Daughter caught it at prom (who the fuck was responsible for putting 600 students into 1500 square feet hotel suite?).
    We’ve been wondering the same at our home, too. Son’s prom was at a venue with capability to have hosted the event outside. It was a beautiful evening/night, too.

    Middle school, which had a pretty large outbreak over the past 2 weeks (still going on - about half of the class so far), are re-tooling their 8th grade dance to be outdoors. This is because of the creativity of the school staff and the parent organizers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Tune up the sarcasm meters folks.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    DOs are absolutely real physicians…
    They even go to their own special schools in places like the Cayman Islands!
    Last edited by jfost; 05-27-2022 at 01:50 AM. Reason: Bad code

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    Wife came down with it Sunday night. I have a slight upper throat soreness today. Could I be coming down with it 5 days after her? I thought my Moderna boaster saved me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    Wife came down with it Sunday night. I have a slight upper throat soreness today. Could I be coming down with it 5 days after her? I thought my Moderna boaster saved me.
    That's familiar: my wife had "allergies" Saturday, test Monday was positive so Paxlovid Tuesday. I woke up with some nasal drip Tuesday but tested negative (and again Thursday). Seems like that and fatigue peaked by Wednesday (with noticable help from a sinus rinse--1% baby shampoo) and minor headaches passed as my ears slowly cleared. I think I've coughed maybe 20 times and I'm not rushing out for a bike ride, but hopefully in a day or two. Moderna #4 is about 6 weeks old now.

    Her third pfizer was like 8 months ago and she has not had such a good time. Significant chest congestion, a rash, fevers (complete with dreams), very fatigued. She's been improving for a day or two, but if there's a big reset when the Paxlovid ends I think she's gonna be pissed--it's a lot of orange-zest and pennies on her tongue so far.

    Pretty likely we were both exposed a couple days before her symptoms, where I was wearing an n95 and she was in a level 3 patient mask. Should have stuck to our routine. Precautions in public are a minor inconvenience, this is a major pain in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    Wife came down with it Sunday night. I have a slight upper throat soreness today. Could I be coming down with it 5 days after her? I thought my Moderna boaster saved me.
    Yes. Yes you could be.

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    I tested positive yesterday, wife tested positive this morning, both kids still negative.

    Double vaxxed/boosted. Tested myself randomly because I was supposed to go to the doctors today and I had “allergies” this week, so figured I’d take the test and check the box when they asked…

    Symptoms have been pretty mild - minor sore throat, light cough. Had an hour or two of flu-like chills/muscle soreness but nothing since then. Walking around our house with masks on hoping we spare the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    Tune up the sarcasm meters folks.
    I think riser in his 4th Inkarnation has become evil and is dead serious. Leroy has done some research about it and wrote a well structured opinion piece about it.
    It's a war of the mind and we're armed to the teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Seems like that and fatigue peaked by Wednesday (with noticable help from a sinus rinse--1% baby shampoo) and minor headaches passed as my ears slowly cleared. I think I've coughed maybe 20 times and I'm not rushing out for a bike ride, but hopefully in a day or two. Moderna #4 is about 6 weeks old now.
    Holy crap, you mean business. Never heard of nasal irrigation with baby shampoo! Can you smell it, or did the covid crush your olfactory nerve

    6 weeks out from Moderna #4 with symptomatic covid reinforces (in my opinion) why most healthy people don't need 4th shots. Minimal, if any sterilizing immunity when hypothetically your nAbs should be raging high. Time to hang up the old mRNA vax and start fresh, or not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyCarter View Post
    Symptoms have been pretty mild - minor sore throat, light cough. Had an hour or two of muscle soreness but nothing since then.
    Fuck, fuck, fuck. That is me earlier today. Been resting the last few hours so just the minor sore upper throat now.
    Sure hope we are ok to fly home by 06/10.
    Quote Originally Posted by leroy jenkins View Post
    I think you'd have an easier time understanding people if you remembered that 80% of them are fucking morons.
    That is why I like dogs, more than most people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackhead View Post
    Holy crap, you mean business. Never heard of nasal irrigation with baby shampoo! Can you smell it, or did the covid crush your olfactory nerve

    6 weeks out from Moderna #4 with symptomatic covid reinforces (in my opinion) why most healthy people don't need 4th shots. Minimal, if any sterilizing immunity when hypothetically your nAbs should be raging high. Time to hang up the old mRNA vax and start fresh, or not at all.
    Scan around NIH etc and you'll probably find several studies looking at a 1% solution of Johnson and Johnson baby shampoo. I haven't kept up on their results, but I was looking for something like this about a year ago and finding that I assumed it must be safe. I've done it twice and both times it seemed much more effective than just the salt stuff alone, but if you overdo it you get nasty tasting bubbles in the throat--the bubbles are a little annoying, but they sure could leave out the scent. 4 drops in about 5 ounces was milder and still seems to have worked.

    The studies are looking to kill virus with it (works really well in vitro) but regardless of that the solution just breaks stuff up better. I don't find irrigation all that helpful without it.

    My doctor has been more concerned, which is why I've had to go for two negative tests. I'm compromised and historically that's translated into every bug lasts 2x longer for me than my wife. So far this is the exception. As he's mentioned, negative tests and the very mild symptoms reinforce that disease and immunity are not binary.

    They really should update the vaccines, but it's not that or nothing. I held off on #4 until it looked like the update was delayed and I was about to travel but now I'm glad to have it. Dude in Germany took 87 shots. I never get anything but a sore arm. Pretty easy decision at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subtle plague View Post
    I think riser in his 4th Inkarnation has become evil and is dead serious. Leroy has done some research about it and wrote a well structured opinion piece about it.
    He's got a virtual ball gag so I can't hear him. And don't you dare quote him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    That's familiar: my wife had "allergies" Saturday, test Monday was positive so Paxlovid Tuesday. I woke up with some nasal drip Tuesday but tested negative (and again Thursday). Seems like that and fatigue peaked by Wednesday (with noticable help from a sinus rinse--1% baby shampoo) and minor headaches passed as my ears slowly cleared. I think I've coughed maybe 20 times and I'm not rushing out for a bike ride, but hopefully in a day or two. Moderna #4 is about 6 weeks old now.

    Her third pfizer was like 8 months ago and she has not had such a good time. Significant chest congestion, a rash, fevers (complete with dreams), very fatigued. She's been improving for a day or two, but if there's a big reset when the Paxlovid ends I think she's gonna be pissed--it's a lot of orange-zest and pennies on her tongue so far.

    Pretty likely we were both exposed a couple days before her symptoms, where I was wearing an n95 and she was in a level 3 patient mask. Should have stuck to our routine. Precautions in public are a minor inconvenience, this is a major pain in the ass.


    https://www.live5news.com/2022/05/26...days-cdc-says/

    Got to quarantine 5 days longer when using Paxlovid. Rough news.

    Also, in other rough news:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...inds-rcna30467

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    Wife and I tested positive last Saturday, I was feeling kind of crappy last week but I thought it was just allergies (and it was, at least in part, Claritin did help). Then she started feeling crappy and took a test and when she was positive I took one too.

    I've been pretty much fine, took a test yesterday and was still positive but I have no symptoms other than a runny nose and some fatigue, both of which could also be allergy-related. Wife's been a little sicker but she's fine too. Took another test yesterday and was surprised I'm still positive. Can't imagine I'm contagious but I'm still lying low.

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    I wonder how long people test positive? 7-10 days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    I wonder how long people test positive? 7-10 days?
    For me and my family, tested positive for 30 days after the first positive test.

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    Fuck me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ötzi View Post
    Wife and I tested positive last Saturday, I was feeling kind of crappy last week but I thought it was just allergies (and it was, at least in part, Claritin did help). Then she started feeling crappy and took a test and when she was positive I took one too.

    I've been pretty much fine, took a test yesterday and was still positive but I have no symptoms other than a runny nose and some fatigue, both of which could also be allergy-related. Wife's been a little sicker but she's fine too. Took another test yesterday and was surprised I'm still positive. Can't imagine I'm contagious but I'm still lying low.
    My bout 2 weeks ago was very mild, just nasal congestion and sneezing, no throat/cough issues. I popped Ag+ within 18hrs of getting a sniffle and stayed Ag+ for 9 days. Stayed away from work all week but developed a day drinking habit.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    Mrs was neg thru my day 5 then got the chills and a head cold with a bit of a cough, she felt a little flu-ish and a bit of fatigue. Tested neg that day then Ag+ next time 2 days later. Stayed Ag+ thru day 8.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percy Rideout View Post
    https://www.live5news.com/2022/05/26...days-cdc-says/

    Got to quarantine 5 days longer when using Paxlovid. Rough news.

    Also, in other rough news:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...inds-rcna30467
    The conclusion of the authors of the study on long covid is long covid merits further study -
    we need to be careful with selecting data points from a study, like, 'vaccination only reduces the incidence of long covid by fifteen percent ... '
    But it also was found to reduce respiratory effects more than fifty percent and (blood) clotting complications by more than fifty percent --

    I would like to see expectations for advances in covid vaccines using additional vaccine technology
    ( there is too much written about the potential benefits of an intranasal vaccine for me to not believe work is being done to explore these possibilities... )

    The author of the study also acknowledges that the existing vaccines are "miraculous" at preventing 'severe covid resulting in hospitalization or/and death. '

    Please don't forget 2020, 2021, or the omicron spike earlier this year -

    Vaccination is succeeding at what it was designed to do. we are lucky that omicron is not equally as pathologically-advanced as it was immunity-evasive.

    yes, long covid needs further study.


    Please be boostered. skiJ

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    So doing my Google searches while my wife naps, I saw you can test positive for up to 30 days on a Rapid test. They suggested going to a Dr. to document your infection date so you could fly into the USA 10 days later regardless of test results needed. Anyone care to comment on that? Thanks

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    Good luck to all those that are sick!!

    Michael Mina consistently spouts that those that are vaxed, have a known exposure (like a child or spouse), have a short bout of symptoms, and never test positive have successfully fought off the disease and were never infectious. I've never seen a journal/study source for this. Do some exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by liv2ski View Post
    So doing my Google searches while my wife naps, I saw you can test positive for up to 30 days on a Rapid test.
    Where'd you see that? I've consistently seen that pcr will show positive for weeks after an AG test no longer shows positive.

    Quote Originally Posted by skiJ View Post
    The conclusion of the authors of the study on long covid is long covid merits further study -
    we need to be careful with selecting data points from a study, like, 'vaccination only reduces the incidence of long covid by fifteen percent ... '
    I believe Topel pointed this out because the % was significantly lower than any other similar study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackhead View Post
    Holy crap, you mean business. Never heard of nasal irrigation with baby shampoo! Can you smell it, or did the covid crush your olfactory nerve

    6 weeks out from Moderna #4 with symptomatic covid reinforces (in my opinion) why most healthy people don't need 4th shots. Minimal, if any sterilizing immunity when hypothetically your nAbs should be raging high. Time to hang up the old mRNA vax and start fresh, or not at all.
    There have been multiple attempts to develop a nasal vaccine since the start with multiple trials ongoing--if it were easy there would be one. It would make sense to release a variant vaccine if only the virus would stop mutating long enough to pick the right variant. In the meantime, no reason for angst over needing multiple doses. Kids have been getting up to five doses per shot (dpt) forever without complaining. (OK, maybe a little complaining. Or maybe a lot.)

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    Question about long Covid and insurance coverage. I have read concerns that insurance coverage for those experiencing long covid symptoms as a “preexisting” condition if there is no documentation of Covid infection. Is there documented truth to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    I believe Topel pointed this out because the % was significantly lower than any other similar study.
    Looks like news, to me: a man bit a dog. Certainly not useless, but the "dog bites man" stories might just have stronger evidence to support them.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s415...01840-0#MOESM1

    There are several issues that would tend to bias this study toward "worse news." They don't appear to have stratified by age and, unsurprisingly, the two oldest groups under study were the vaccinated control and the breakthrough group. The group that got the disease was almost 9 years younger than those who had breakthrough infections. (Caveat: key word may be "appear"--I couldn't find it, but if it's in there please correct me.)

    The higher survival rate in the BTI group makes comparison to the infection group vulnerable to survivorship bias, too, as the likely worst cases in the infection group died before they had a chance for long COVID.

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