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    A coronavirus outbreak hit a Florida government building. Two people are dead but a vaccinated employee wasn't infected

    Two people are dead and four of their coworkers were hospitalized after a Covid-19 outbreak swept through a government building in Manatee County, Florida.

    The outbreak began in the IT department, according to Manatee County Administrator Scott Hopes, who is also an epidemiologist. Another person who worked on the same floor but in a different department also tested positive for coronavirus last week.

    Of the six people infected, five were hospitalized. One employee who was in the hospital died and another employee who was not hospitalized also died, Hopes told CNN's Erin Burnett.

    The only exposed employee in the IT office who was vaccinated did not get infected, Hopes said.

    "The clinical presentation gives me concern that we're dealing with a very infectious variant that is quite deadly," Hopes told Burnett.

    The government building was closed on Friday as a precaution. It reopened Monday but officials didn't implement a mask requirement, instead keeping them optional.

    Hopes said he's encouraging workers who aren't vaccinated to wear a mask and the county is making them available to employees and visitors.

    "Clearly masks work, but the vaccine is more important at this point," Hopes said.

    Manatee County will offer a Covid-19 vaccine clinic for employees at the administration building on Friday.
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    Fucking Manatee County. Not surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    Fucking Manatee County. Not surprised.
    Srsly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    well i thot there are still a whole bunch of vax hesitant or covid denyers or sft ?

    the vacines did not happen over night there were years of cumulative research according to the scientists in these links

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/jun-...ines-1.6061099

    this guy ^^has been working on the delivery system for 40 yrs

    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/mar-...ible-1.5955279

    this guy ^^had a spike protein model knocked up in < an hr from existing research

    maybe if they spun it differently there wouldnt be so many people thinking it was too fast to be safe ?
    Well sure, NOW you can say all that .... but in the beginning? When it was a NOVEL corona virus pathogen?? You know, people making all kinds of wild claims and guesses WITH OUT ANY EVIDENCE?? So any one claiming that we would be where we are now, even with all the covidiots refusing the vaccines, in the early 2020 would have been blowing smoke, just like the rest of us, including trump. So, it's definitely amazing how well things unfolded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    The only exposed employee in the IT office who was vaccinated did not get infected, Hopes said.
    Amazing. Putting the "duh" in Floriduh once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PB View Post
    Well sure, NOW you can say all that .... but in the beginning? When it was a NOVEL corona virus pathogen?? You know, people making all kinds of wild claims and guesses WITH OUT ANY EVIDENCE?? So any one claiming that we would be where we are now, even with all the covidiots refusing the vaccines, in the early 2020 would have been blowing smoke, just like the rest of us, including trump. So, it's definitely amazing how well things unfolded.
    in every day life I see people getting all twisted on FB when a little PR could have prevented it all, I don't remembr anyone putting any spin on the science until now a year later,

    in any case one of them guys is a snowboarder from texas so we probably should discount every thing he did maybe even refuse the vax
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    in every day life I see people getting all twisted on FB when a little PR could have prevented it all, I don't remembr anyone putting any spin on the science until now a year later,

    in any case one of them guys is a snowboarder from texas so we probably should discount every thing he did maybe even refuse the vax
    Since we're ragging on people from the past for not knowing what the future would bring, I'd just like to say that Judas and Pontius Pilate got raw deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaleia View Post
    Yeah, Canada's National Advisory Committee on Immunizations updated their vaccine recommendations, the biggest change being for anyone who received AZ as their first shot should receive an mRNA vaccine as their second dose. Creates a better immune response.
    This what I got from BC vac "DougW, you can now book your appointment for a second dose of Pfizer or Moderna (mRNA) vaccine. You could get either vaccine at the clinic. A choice will not be offered."

    Maybe that might be do to being in a small town, you get what you get .
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    Its been all pfizer over here and for # 2 I just did a walk up at 8:15 in the AM, i was done before 10am
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougW View Post
    This what I got from BC vac "DougW, you can now book your appointment for a second dose of Pfizer or Moderna (mRNA) vaccine. You could get either vaccine at the clinic. A choice will not be offered."

    Maybe that might be do to being in a small town, you get what you get .
    I live in a large town. It's the same thing here. All 3 do the same thing, the RNA ones even more so - just get whatever.

    Hell, gimme Pfizer when this is all over so I can have 'em all. Can't wait to start caring about who makes my next tetanus shot.

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    Morgan Stanley's New York office bans unvaccinated staff and clients

    New York (CNN Business)Morgan Stanley plans to ban workers from its New York headquarters if they have not received a Covid-19 vaccine. The rule will apply to non-vaccinated guests and clients as well.

    According to a source close to the company, Morgan Stanley said in a memo to its employees in the New York metropolitan area that all staff working in buildings with a "large employee presence" are required to confirm their vaccination status by July 1.

    The source added that "vaccine attestation is on an honorary basis for employees, contingent workforce, clients and visitors." The Financial Times was the first to report the news.

    The company plans to expand the vaccination mandate to employees and guests in other Morgan Stanley locations in New York City and nearby Westchester starting July 12.

    "Operating within a fully vaccinated environment allows us to lift restrictions like the use of face coverings and the need to maintain physical distancing, returning to more normal office conditions," the source added.

    Morgan Stanley (MS) CEO James Gorman has previously taken a hard line on employees returning to the office: Gorman commented at an investing conference earlier this month that it was time for the bank's New York workers to head back to the headquarters in the Big Apple's Times Square.

    "If you can go to a restaurant in New York City, you can come into the office. And we want you in the office," Gorman said. He also warned he would be "very disappointed" if workers aren't back by Labor Day. And if they're not, then "we'll have a different kind of conversation," he said.

    Gorman added at the time that more than 90% of its workers have said they have already received the vaccine and that he expects this number to eventually hit 98% to 99%.

    He did note some employees may choose to not get vaccinated for health or religious reasons, adding that the company will deal with these situations on a case-by-case basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post
    He did note some employees may choose to not get vaccinated for health or religious reasons, adding that the company will deal with these situations on a case-by-case basis.
    I would not buy stock from a Christian Scientist

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    Isnt " Christian Scientist " an oxymoran ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    Isnt " Christian Scientist " an oxymoran ?
    Not for Christian Scientists.

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    I will say one thing, 30 years ago I was an avid reader of The Christian Science Monitor newspaper. They had some excellent journalism especially for international coverage. My college library subscribed. You just had to skip the one page withe their daily religion bullshit column.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    I will say one thing, 30 years ago I was an avid reader of The Christian Science Monitor newspaper. They had some excellent journalism especially for international coverage. My college library subscribed. You just had to skip the one page withe their daily religion bullshit column.
    And anything they have to say about science or science based medicine... they are Christian Scientists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    And anything they have to say about science or science based medicine... they are Christian Scientists.
    Actually, they did some great pieces on science and medicine. I was amazed. They had world class coverage. I know people like to bag on them however the newspaper was of exceptional quality. No idea what it's like now.

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    CSM used to have a stellar reputation. According to Wikipedia it's had a hard time staying solvent lately, like a lot of papers.

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    Wait, how can we trust this guy^^^ He's clearly not DJSapp

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    WSJ: About half of adults infected in an outbreak of the Delta variant of Covid-19 in Israel were fully inoculated with the Pfizer Inc. vaccine, prompting the government to reimpose an indoor mask requirement and other measures to contain the highly transmissible strain.

    NPR: From Australia to Israel and around Europe, health officials announced new restrictions ahead of the weekend as they report clusters of outbreaks and try to mitigate further transmissions. These decisions come as the more transmissible delta variant of the coronavirus becomes the dominant strain in several countries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    WSJ: About half of adults infected in an outbreak of the Delta variant of Covid-19 in Israel were fully inoculated with the Pfizer Inc. vaccine, prompting the government to reimpose an indoor mask requirement and other measures to contain the highly transmissible strain.

    NPR: From Australia to Israel and around Europe, health officials announced new restrictions ahead of the weekend as they report clusters of outbreaks and try to mitigate further transmissions. These decisions come as the more transmissible delta variant of the coronavirus becomes the dominant strain in several countries.


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    Email came out Monday at work. Cal OSHA came out with new workplace guidelines that says vaccinated can go maskless, but unvaccinated have to wear a mask. The email said you have to sign into a California Dept of Health website to verify your vaccinated. The covididiots are losing their minds! I overheard someone comparing it to the holocaust. My Q anon co-worker responded to the email stating this new rule was violating of some federal statute that says you can't coerce vaccinations.

    I think it's a very bad idea. We should continue all wearing masks and social distancing at work. But seeing the these dumb motherfuckers losing their minds almost worth the added risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    WSJ: About half of adults infected in an outbreak of the Delta variant of Covid-19 in Israel were fully inoculated with the Pfizer Inc. vaccine, prompting the government to reimpose an indoor mask requirement and other measures to contain the highly transmissible strain.

    NPR: From Australia to Israel and around Europe, health officials announced new restrictions ahead of the weekend as they report clusters of outbreaks and try to mitigate further transmissions. These decisions come as the more transmissible delta variant of the coronavirus becomes the dominant strain in several countries.


    We're all gunna die.
    Infected, sure. But how sick are they?

    The whole point of this (to me, at least) was to get vaccinated so I won't die should COVID get in my wonderful, pure lungs.

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    No clue. Both articles were a little light on specifics, and the wsj one had the second half behind a paywall.

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    In Israel, UAE, UK, and other countries there's an increase of new cases. The future in taking about have been well vaccinated.

    If you look at the percent vaccinated, the current wave is roughly half the previous waves, which would support the theory that the new cases are mostly among un vaccinated.

    It seems to be the same in the US, with the states least vaccinated shitting fit an increase in new cases.

    But anyway, not getting a vaccine gives the virus a chance to mutate, perhaps where the vaccines are not effective.

    Until we vaccinated 7 billion people, we will need to live with on and off restrictions in all countries.

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