To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[old goat]

Who is Brittlestar and why should I listen to him?

Because he's not Joe Rogan?

[paulster2626]

It's booster day!! Had Omicron at xmas, and scheduled the booster for today so maximum immunity kicks in juuuust as I get on the plane to head to BC in a couple weeks.

Gonna feel powerful like a Greek god walking around out there. Kind of looking forward to the booster sickness tomorrow so I can do minimal work and just watch ski movies, nap, and play Call of Duty all day.

[SumJongGuy]

My kid's in his 5th semester at The University of Oklahoma, smack in the middle of the reddest of red states. Surprisingly, it wasn't until this week that he was face to face with a devout anti vaxer/anti masker. Says this dude in his chemistry discussion group showed up at the library wearing a red hat with political affiliation and "I've got an EXEMPTION" on the front of it. I told him to wear the good mask to those group meetings. Apparently, on campus it hadn't been as bad as the rest of The Bible Belt. Still thinking a science class was not the place I was expecting him to encounter full fledged stupid..

[The SnowShow]

Denver’s Children’s Museum announced they’re closing for 10 days because of uncivil patrons harassing the staff over the mask mandate. Good for them, fuck those turds.

[billyk]

While you guys are maxing out your covid booster shots, you might consider getting a flu shot as well. Wife and I are recovering from a nasty bout of what turned out to be ordinary flu. Not pleasant at all. Yes, the flu is still out there!

[TNKen]

My entire family is vaxxed and boosted. Daughter living with us is a server and in college. Daughter living with us gets it, misses me and the wife. I get it, wife still misses it.

Wife and PA daughter are both in a hospital setting, both exposed routinely, neither have gotten it.

PA daughter spends a ton of time in the ER on consults, ICU's, rounding on the floors, and in the OR; so far bulletproof (or totally asymptomatic).

Doc just prescribed me a round of doxycycline to try to kick the congestion/cough.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Pure comedy gold here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brigham...et-vaccinated/


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I don’t agree that it’s comedy gold. It’s tragic that this person will die rather than get vaccinated with a safe and effective vaccine.

It’s good that the transplant center is adhering to policy.


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[Percy Rideout]

Why has the booster rollout here in that states been so poor? The same people that got their 2 shots aren't lining up for their boosters at the same rate. Same goes for the 5-11 age cohort with poor vaccination rates. What gives?

[riser4]

While you guys are maxing out your covid booster shots, you might consider getting a flu shot as well. Wife and I are recovering from a nasty bout of what turned out to be ordinary flu. Not pleasant at all. Yes, the flu is still out there!

Yup. Got flu shot in fall. Unfortunately I heard that this year's shot missed the dominant strain. Oh well, I still get mine every year.

[Kinnikinnick]

Why has the booster rollout here in that states been so poor? The same people that got their 2 shots and acted like Rosie the Riveter aren't lining up for their boosters at the same rate. What gives?

1) Seeds of doubt have been planted by dubious sources and now that there is good data those sources make no mention.

2) “I haven’t gotten around to it” says a friend of mine.

3) “everyone is going to get it”

4) “I dont want to keep getting boosters after the boosters”






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[riser4]

My entire family is vaxxed and boosted. Daughter living with us is a server and in college. Daughter living with us gets it, misses me and the wife. I get it, wife still misses it.

Wife and PA daughter are both in a hospital setting, both exposed routinely, neither have gotten it.

PA daughter spends a ton of time in the ER on consults, ICU's, rounding on the floors, and in the OR; so far bulletproof (or totally asymptomatic).

Doc just prescribed me a round of doxycycline to try to kick the congestion/cough.

Damn. Heal up buddy.

[Summit]

Yup. Got flu shot in fall. Unfortunately I heard that this year's shot missed the dominant strain. Oh well, I still get mine every year.

It will still give protection against severe disease

[The AD]

1) Seeds of doubt have been planted by dubious sources and now that there is good data those sources make no mention.

2) “I haven’t gotten around to it” says a friend of mine.

3) “everyone is going to get it”

4) “I dont want to keep getting boosters after the boosters”

I think all of these contribute, but especially #3 in light of Omicron.

[hutash]

I haven't (knowingly) had the big C, but got three shots plus flu, and survived four weeks in Jackson and Big Sky, plus a bit of Denver and SLC, and nary a sniffle. Pack trams, pack apres at the Moose, hardly a mask at hockey games or stores (other then our California contingent) and I am still standing.

I was cautious, but never obsessive, mostly just common sense type things, so something is working.

Since there is no down side to any of the things I have done, I highly recommend them. Get vaccinated, wear a mask in crowded situations, avoid unnecessary crowds, stand a few feet apart when possible, wash your hands, etc. None of that has cost me a cent, is of minor inconvenience, and other then feeling a little punky after the vax, was just not a big deal. Why others make it such an issue is just beyond me. This should not be a political issue...too bad some have made it such.

[hutash]

I think all of these contribute, but especially #3 in light of Omicron.

Valid point, but it would not likely need to be a point at all if people had responded to this properly in the first place.

[riser4]

It will still give protection against severe disease

Yup. And it's not like I can unvaccinate myself. I still get the flu shot every year.

[Benny Profane]

A lot of what you guys are talking about--the wealthy gaming the system with SAT test takers, essay writers, donations, etc--really only applies to the top tier private colleges. (With athletes it's a different story.) With most schools just about anyone who has the potential to graduate can get in--or get into a different school just as good. IF they can afford it.

No. Scott Galaway has written a ton about this. When he was admitted to UCLA in around 1980 (?), they had a 70ish percentage acceptance rate. Now it's 12%. It is much harder and much more expensive to get a degree these days, even from state schools.

[liv2ski]

Why has the booster rollout here in that states been so poor? The same people that got their 2 shots aren't lining up for their boosters at the same rate. Same goes for the 5-11 age cohort with poor vaccination rates. What gives?

Good question? Covid fatigue? First shots worked so they think they are still good? Whatever the reason, it is ultimately their call to be behind someone fully vaxed if they need to go to the hospital for services. At least they are still in front of the non vaxed. O, or that is how it should be. Sorry about that little scare.

[::: :::]

It is much harder and much more expensive to get a degree these days, even from state schools.

absolutely true

it is however mostly not true that everyone above middle income is "gaming the system"

studying, even tutoring, is not gaming the system
planning for college by doing more extracurriculars is not gaming the system
being wealthy, while it confers comfort, is not gaming the system. Yes, it reflects financial stability, but it isn't a cheat code...effort has to be put in

as with anything, there are a few special assholes who will cheat and do anything to achieve their selfish goals

and college has been promoted to everyone so everyone has an expectation of going. that just wasn't the case 50yrs ago. so, it's naturally harder to get in. nothing wrong with that.

what is problematic is when no one can afford your product such that most scales of income need a loan to participate

[schindlerpiste]

I guess that we can all start talking about the 4th Corona vaccine. Pfizer is testing an Omicron vax. ...Coming to a Walmart near you...

[bennymac]

People should look at how many vaccines they had as a kid. Or that their kids themselves got. Like how many polio shots you got. How many measles. How many hepatitis B shots etc etc.

Because I’ve heard a bunch of people complaining about the booster and saying “well this I stupid why do we need 3 shots against this? What’s next…a fourth shot? Cmon man! Big pharma is behind this I bet”

[LongShortLong]

Two of America's top epidemiologist think China's zero COVID strategy is a huge mistake. Mainly because with Omicron, it is not possible and their vaccine doesn't work against Omicron. Their healthcare system will not be able to handle the onslaught that is about to take place.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/25/o...smid=url-share

Maybe we should import epidemiologists from China. Their recent peak of 200 cases per day looks like winning. Sure hope they can handle that surge. China, New Zealand, and Taiwan are each averaging 60 cases/day now. If we wanted, we could have a high quality diversified epidemiologist supply chain.

[old goat]

No. Scott Galaway has written a ton about this. When he was admitted to UCLA in around 1980 (?), they had a 70ish percentage acceptance rate. Now it's 12%. It is much harder and much more expensive to get a degree these days, even from state schools.

A) UCLA is a top tier public university. There are plenty of Cal State branches that are easy to get into, (like the one my undocumented immigrant partner went to before he went to med school and then became a vascular surgeon, until he decided at age 50 he wanted to be a heart surgeon too.) But a bad idea if you want to be a SCOTUS justice. I don't think even Stanford works for that.
B) It's a lot harder to game your way into top state schools. No legacy admits. It does help if you can block, tackle, throw, catch or shoot baskets.
C) Plenty of lesser known private colleges, many of which admit a high percentage of applicants and offer need based assistance. Still, the cost is a huge barrier for way too many as we all know.
D( who is Scott Galloway?

[MagnificentUnicorn]

It will still give protection against severe disease

I’ve heard this before about other vaccines but it’s hard to recall….


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[Adolf Allerbush]

Maybe we should import epidemiologists from China. Their recent peak of 200 cases per day looks like winning. Sure hope they can handle that surge. China, New Zealand, and Taiwan are each averaging 60 cases/day now. If we wanted, we could have a high quality diversified epidemiologist supply chain.

I think the idea is that China will not be able to isolate their way out of the pandemic...who knows if that's true or not. I get the idea that having to keep their society perpetually locked down is probably not good for business...then again, it's China and they fuck with their populace all the time.