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09-07-2021, 11:48 AM #11601Registered User
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I feel like we don't see enough charts like this in the media:
Or this:
It's easy to get lost in the talk about breakthrough cases, efficacy against variants, etc.. But the bottom line is that this vaccine shit works, and if enough people get vaccinated (which doesn't have to be 100%), the pandemic ends and most of us can quit worrying about COVID19. HCWs and epidemiologists will still have to deal with the occasional outbreak, but the rest of us can go back to our lives. Unfortunately it may take a while until we can get there.
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09-07-2021, 11:52 AM #11602
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09-07-2021, 11:55 AM #11603
^ It is crazy. Back in July after reading alarming posts about breakthrough infections occurring in "the most vaccinated countries in the world" in places like Iceland you'd look at the data and it would be something like 6 vaccinated people in the hospital and zero deaths.
If the NYTimes is sending out daily emails saying vaccines work incredibly well then I'm all for it.
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09-07-2021, 11:57 AM #11604
So you are in Missouri…
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09-07-2021, 12:05 PM #11605
This post sums up why people don’t want to have an open conversation with YOU. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Did you know that other countries have diseases that are endemic and that we don’t have to deal with because of high percentages of vaccinated people? As far as effectiveness against Covid and it’s variants the vaccines are very effective at protecting people from serious illness and death, like most vaccines. The faulty headlines about waning effectiveness have been explained here and links have been provided to explain why. I’m not sure why you posted “so called “boosters””. They are boosters and lots of vaccines require them and that too has been explained ad nauseum.
You choose not to read and/or lack the comprehension to understand the issues. Maybe you’re just trying to be edgy but you come across as simple and ignorant with these
so called “open” posts.
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09-07-2021, 12:07 PM #11606
This is the complete opposite of what you posted earlier this morning. How can you agree with something you have no understanding of?
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09-07-2021, 12:07 PM #11607
I think his post was about you
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09-07-2021, 12:11 PM #11608
But those unvaccinated deaths are probably something else. I know it’s the same as my hospital Covid census but that’s only anecdotal
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09-07-2021, 12:30 PM #11609
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09-07-2021, 12:38 PM #11610
Be safe out there, Idaho Mags; “crisis standards of care”…..
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...106009093?s=21
Good job you anti-vax fuckheads!
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09-07-2021, 12:42 PM #11611
“I was wrong about just about everything. Repeatedly. Even when shown the facts I would loop back after visiting Facebook or other shitty sources of information and regurgitate what I read there. Now that I’m starting to understand how wrong I was and what small role I played in furthering disinformation I’m forced to face the reality of my failings. But instead of doing that I’ll protect my ego and instead I’ll blame…the media”
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09-07-2021, 01:03 PM #11612
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09-07-2021, 01:20 PM #11613
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09-07-2021, 01:25 PM #11614
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09-07-2021, 01:56 PM #11615click here
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09-07-2021, 02:22 PM #11616Registered User
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To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues
The anitvaxxers i know are all now in on the idea that vaccines cause variants. They don’t seem to care that delta and others existed before vaccine rollouts. They keep digging up articles mentioning variants can result from mutations in vaccinated people and that’s their new mantra why vaccines are bad. At least for this afternoon
She even found a headline on NPR (I’m surprised she would even click on such a commie liberal site)
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/96570...-98lQNhs4g4VxY
https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-v...yizMiZBNdAOtFoLast edited by mcski; 09-07-2021 at 04:13 PM.
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09-07-2021, 02:28 PM #11617Banned
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Have one of these on my Facebook. It's very weird.
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09-07-2021, 02:48 PM #11618
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09-07-2021, 02:51 PM #11619Registered User
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" As a virologist I’m shocked my work has been hijacked by anti-vaxxers "
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...1ZQOF9MqPRzaVwLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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09-07-2021, 03:15 PM #11620
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09-07-2021, 03:25 PM #11621
https://www.bing.com/search?q=colora...ANNTA1&PC=U531
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respectfully. skiJLast edited by skiJ; 09-07-2021 at 04:19 PM.
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09-07-2021, 03:28 PM #11622
Hey guys, I WAS trolling in my previous disingenuous responses and inane shitposts but this time I am sincerely here for honest and open dialogue.
Let's debate!j'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi
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09-07-2021, 03:37 PM #11623Registered User
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09-07-2021, 04:25 PM #11625Hucked to flat once
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Was hanging out with some medical folks late last week including an ER doc in charge of the department here and they are so sick of unvaccinated people clogging the works. He said this was coming.
He told me the standard of care in the ICU is either one or two nurses to one patient and the ER is one nurse to 5-6 patients. Had an auto accident come in that should have been ICU…no beds so he sat in the ER for 48 hours. The cool part, he was in an induced coma and shit himself for the 48 hours because they didn’t have staff for the care. While he was taking up an ER bed, there was about a four hour wait in the ER check in.
The other guy I was hanging with is in anesthesia who normally works in the OR and has been pulled off OR to intubate Covid patients. He hasn’t intubated a vaccinated person yet. And electives are now postponed again. He said they’re losing otherwise healthy people in their 40s and he just assisted on a C section of a covid positive unvaccinated mom. He left after surgery and was off for the weekend but the prognosis was mom wasn’t going to make it and 50/50 on the premature baby.
Yes, I can’t source this for you if you don’t believe what they told but my friends in the medical field are flat worn out and I’m not sure how they find a way to continue to serve unvaccinated dumbfucks.
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