Page 306 of 621 FirstFirst ... 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 ... LastLast
Results 7,626 to 7,650 of 15511
  1. #7626
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Access to Granlibakken
    Posts
    9,251
    Based solely on his posts, there appears to be agreement mtu isn’t the brightest light on the tree, but that’s no crime. He seems earnest enough and I think he reproduces some the common confusions out there in the real world.

    Hard to get a read on RJ. He recently posted that ‘idiots’ who wear masks driving a car alone somehow are ‘in’ the group here of people who recognize the value of the vaccine. Apparently he didn’t remember the simple explanation several times in these threads that when people were running multiple errands, and had a comfortable mask, it was easier to leave it on.

    Public forums are messy. I’m fine with that. Just hope the mags here with actual medical backgrounds continue to post useful stuff.

  2. #7627
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    9,300ft
    Posts
    19,057
    Quote Originally Posted by CS2-6 View Post
    You think everyone wearing a mask over their nose and mouth during a global pandemic is a dystopia?! If you think that's dystopian, you'll never have to worry about making it through Room 101, you'll turn Party at the first investigation.
    Excellent reference, but I don't think he's read Orwell
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  3. #7628
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Way East Tennessee
    Posts
    4,085
    Few stories.

    Billiard playing friend, anti-vaxxer, deceased.
    20 you kid, unvaccinated, vaped for the last year, deceased Friday.
    Guy in our church, big fellow, 6'11", anti vaxxer, wife w/ 5 kids (3 adopted), moved to ICU this am in critical condition. D-variant.
    In order to properly convert this thread to a polyasshat thread to more fully enrage the liberal left frequenting here...... (insert latest democratic blunder of your choice).

  4. #7629
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    In a van... down by the river
    Posts
    8,283
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    After I put a handful of those maroons on ignore, it made this thread so much more informative. I went back and re-read the past several days and it’s like a whole different thread.
    This. The thread is just *way* less moranic without about 4 twat-waffles' blather.

  5. #7630
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    PNW
    Posts
    6,021
    Why are so many Republicans refusing vaccination? Because Russia is telling them to | COMMENTARY
    https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion...ifm-story.html

    Among those with something to gain is the Russian government, which is diligently working to undermine confidence in the vaccines as part of its goal of destabilizing American society. It has been spreading misinformation for years on a host of other virus-related topics, including flu and Ebola. From there, it’s a short hop to having their message amplified by conspiracy-embracing, right-wing media, whether witting or not, and by the soulless churn of algorithms on social media.

    And it doesn’t take many people amplifying a false message to have an outsized effect. According to a recent PBS story, 65% of the anti-vaccine propaganda on Twitter was due to just 12 people, some of whom are profiting from the creation of bogus skepticism through the promotion of alternative treatments and cures.

  6. #7631
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    23,347
    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    Among those with something to gain is the Russian government, which is diligently working to undermine confidence in the vaccines as part of its goal of destabilizing American society.
    They're probably shocked at how easy it's been.

  7. #7632
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    6,118
    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    They're probably shocked at how easy it's been.
    To be fair, they put in a lot of leg work on this throughout the cold war. They're probably just thrilled to see it finally paying off.
    A woman came up to me and said "I'd like to poison your mind
    with wrong ideas that appeal to you, though I am not unkind."

  8. #7633
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    12,056
    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    Few stories.

    Billiard playing friend, anti-vaxxer, deceased.
    20 you kid, unvaccinated, vaped for the last year, deceased Friday.
    Guy in our church, big fellow, 6'11", anti vaxxer, wife w/ 5 kids (3 adopted), moved to ICU this am in critical condition. D-variant.
    i’m sorry, tnken
    They got a name for the winners in the world

    http://procatinator.com/?cat=80

  9. #7634
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    25,024
    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    Few stories.

    Billiard playing friend, anti-vaxxer, deceased.
    20 you kid, unvaccinated, vaped for the last year, deceased Friday.
    Guy in our church, big fellow, 6'11", anti vaxxer, wife w/ 5 kids (3 adopted), moved to ICU this am in critical condition. D-variant.
    This must be playing out all over America
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  10. #7635
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    I smell poutine!!!
    Posts
    15,641
    Quote Originally Posted by TNKen View Post
    Few stories.

    Billiard playing friend, anti-vaxxer, deceased.
    20 you kid, unvaccinated, vaped for the last year, deceased Friday.
    Guy in our church, big fellow, 6'11", anti vaxxer, wife w/ 5 kids (3 adopted), moved to ICU this am in critical condition. D-variant.
    Thoughts for the affected. That's shitty.

  11. #7636
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    The Goods Department
    Posts
    1,262
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/h...lta-masks.html

    Whoops. NYT would run an article like this a Friday and treat it like a nothingburger.

    While COVID is worse than the flu, when do we start treating it like the flu, because at this point we've tried all the options, and unfortunately they haven't worked.

    It is incredulous to think that we can eradicate this virus at this point. The r0 value is too high, and we "live with the virus" is really our only option at this point.

    Well, at least we learned which of our group has Authoritarian tendencies after this failed experiment. ..
    Skiing in the rockies is like 70's porn

    Lots of bush

    Some wood

    No faceshots...

    -Mtnlion

  12. #7637
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Watching over the valley
    Posts
    3,789
    I did some digging on rj a couple years back when I was dumb enough to engage him on the global warming thread. It seemed to me that the had been a legit poster for a while, disappeared for a long while and reappeared as a troll. My money is on the account having been hacked and is an agent of disinformation and planter of distrust. I vote ban hammer.
    That said, don't engage, and for fucks sake don't quote the piece of shit.

    sent from Utah.
    sigless.

  13. #7638
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    23,347
    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    While COVID is worse than the flu, when do we start treating it like the flu, because at this point we've tried all the options, and unfortunately they haven't worked.

    It is incredulous to think that we can eradicate this virus at this point.
    I'd say part of the problem is your supposition that nothing has worked because we haven't "eradicated the virus" yet.

  14. #7639
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    12,056
    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/h...lta-masks.html

    Whoops. NYT would run an article like this a Friday and treat it like a nothingburger.

    While COVID is worse than the flu, when do we start treating it like the flu, because at this point we've tried all the options, and unfortunately they haven't worked.

    It is incredulous to think that we can eradicate this virus at this point. The r0 value is too high, and we "live with the virus" is really our only option at this point.

    Well, at least we learned which of our group has Authoritarian tendencies after this failed experiment. ..
    https://youtu.be/lOTyUfOHgas
    They got a name for the winners in the world

    http://procatinator.com/?cat=80

  15. #7640
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    9,300ft
    Posts
    19,057
    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    While COVID is worse than the flu, when do we start treating it like the flu
    IMO both of the following have occurred:
    1. Everyone who wants a vaccine has had a chance (DONE)
    2. When there is no hazard of overwhelming the health systems (NOT DONE).
    3. Declaration that US Taxpayers are no longer paying for COVID treatment in unvaccinated patients. (NOT DONE)

    Still having health system surges, overflows, emergency capacity expansions, states shipping patients to other states, hospitals on divert, etc...

    That said, treating flu like flu has always been a mind-blowing disregard for death, suffering, and wasted resources.

    It is incredulous to think that we can eradicate this virus at this point. The r0 value is too high, and we "live with the virus" is really our only option at this point.
    Many diseases with higher R0 have or had become non-endemic (locally eradicated, imported cases only) through vaccination induced herd immunity. This included the most contagious (highest R0) disease known to mankind: Measles.... that is until the antivaxxers fucked it all up.

    We only have to "live with the virus" because the antivaxxers are making that choice and imposing it on everyone else. But please do go on about authoritarianism?
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  16. #7641
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    PNW
    Posts
    6,021
    ORLANDO, Fla. – A day after it recorded the most new daily cases since the start of the pandemic, Florida on Sunday broke a previous record for current hospitalizations set more than a year ago before vaccines were available.

    The Sunshine State had 10,207 people hospitalized with confirmed COVID-19 cases, according to data reported to the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services.
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/flori...spitalizations

  17. #7642
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Edge of the Great Basin
    Posts
    3,350
    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/h...lta-masks.html

    Whoops. NYT would run an article like this a Friday and treat it like a nothingburger.

    While COVID is worse than the flu, when do we start treating it like the flu, because at this point we've tried all the options, and unfortunately they haven't worked.

    It is incredulous to think that we can eradicate this virus at this point. The r0 value is too high, and we "live with the virus" is really our only option at this point.

    Well, at least we learned which of our group has Authoritarian tendencies after this failed experiment. ..
    Why are people such suckers for SEO optimization? Is it because people only read the headlines?

    Obviously, antivax social media accounts are having a field day with these kinds of unforced errors (RJ and others have been running with variations for a while now). Not only was this the main topic of discussion over the weekend, but if people posting these articles would actually read the stories and think about them, scores of clickbait headlines wouldn't be so terrible because the article actually says your arguments are bullshit:

    "Infections in vaccinated Americans are rare, compared with those in unvaccinated people, the document said. But when they occur, vaccinated people may spread the virus just as easily.

    Still, the C.D.C.’s figures show that the vaccines are highly effective in preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death in vaccinated people, experts said.

    “Overall, Delta is the troubling variant we already knew it was,” said John Moore, a virologist at Weill Cornell Medicine in New York. “But the sky isn’t falling and vaccination still protects strongly against the worse outcomes.”"

  18. #7643
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Vacationland
    Posts
    4,412
    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    ORLANDO, Fla. – A day after it recorded the most new daily cases since the start of the pandemic, Florida on Sunday broke a previous record for current hospitalizations set more than a year ago before vaccines were available.

    The Sunshine State had 10,207 people hospitalized with confirmed COVID-19 cases, according to data reported to the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services.
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/flori...spitalizations
    Yup. Talked to my Dad in Sarasota over the weekend, local hospital no longer allowing visitors.

    And big props to the Rev for bringing the sensible heat, our current situation is fucking maddening

  19. #7644
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Missoula, MT
    Posts
    21,722
    Yeah, so I guess my sister-in-law thinks "chinese herbs" will protect her.
    Like, what the fuck?
    No longer stuck.

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Just an uneducated guess.

  20. #7645
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Sandy, Utah
    Posts
    14,391
    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    ORLANDO, Fla. – A day after it recorded the most new daily cases since the start of the pandemic, Florida on Sunday broke a previous record for current hospitalizations set more than a year ago before vaccines were available.

    The Sunshine State had 10,207 people hospitalized with confirmed COVID-19 cases, according to data reported to the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services.
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/flori...spitalizations
    ahhh good ole Gov Death Sentence
    TGR MODS EAT SKIDOG JIZZ

  21. #7646
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Aspen
    Posts
    1,266
    Quote Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn View Post
    Yeah, so I guess my sister-in-law thinks "chinese herbs" will protect her.
    Like, what the fuck?
    One of my college friends has gone off the deep end and is saying the same thing on social media lately. "If you're worried about the Delta variant, boost your immune system with natural herbs!"

  22. #7647
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    6,875
    Tennessee GOP rep who rejected masks now says COVID-19 is real and dangerous after his 8-month battle with the virus

    https://www.insider.com/tennessee-go...riously-2021-8

    GOP Rep. David Byrd is urging people to take COVID-19 seriously and get vaccinated after his eight-month struggle with the coronavirus, in which he was hospitalized and put on a ventilator for 55 days.

    “Up until this point in my life, I've been pretty healthy and active. Foolishly, I believed this virus only seriously affected people who are at high risk”

    Byrd said that the virus took over his lungs with "lightning speed" and that he got pneumonia. He was placed on a ventilator in the intensive-care unit, and his family faced the possibility of a funeral, he said.

    "I got sicker and sicker, and more and more anxious," he said. "Every breath was pure agony."

    When his lungs got better, his liver started to fail.

    Overall, he spent eight months in the hospital and a rehabilitation facility.

    ——

    So I guess we just need to patiently wait for every anti-masker anti-vaxxer “this is all just media hype” “I know better - I’ve done my research” self taught geniuses to get fucked up by covid - then they’ll change their tune.

  23. #7648
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    6,118
    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    Why are people such suckers for SEO optimization? Is it because people only read the headlines?

    Obviously, antivax social media accounts are having a field day with these kinds of unforced errors (RJ and others have been running with variations for a while now). Not only was this the main topic of discussion over the weekend, but if people posting these articles would actually read the stories and think about them, scores of clickbait headlines wouldn't be so terrible because the article actually says your arguments are bullshit:

    "Still, the C.D.C.’s figures show that the vaccines are highly effective in preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death in vaccinated people, experts said.

    “Overall, Delta is the troubling variant we already knew it was,” said John Moore, a virologist at Weill Cornell Medicine in New York. “But the sky isn’t falling and vaccination still protects strongly against the worse outcomes.”"
    I'd go a step further and say that the eye-catching "similar viral loads" vaxed/unvaxed is a genuine nothing--a totally predictable example of selection bias, and an intentional one.

    Obviously people who test positive should be expected to have a very similar viral load (at that moment) whether they were vaccinated or not. Because the test itself is just a qualitative version of the quantitative test that checks viral load. Give two tests that measure the same thing and get the same result: not shocking.

    I'm guessing the crux many people missed is that, statistically, a PCR is effectively a viral load test: give enough people the test and while their individual loads will vary, those who have enough to test positive will have a similar average regardless of most other factors (as long as you don't also pre-select by hospitalization or something that creates a bias toward convalescence etc.) There's a failure to understand the stats, much like OG's point about type II errors, but in this case the stats people should have been consulted before the press release.

  24. #7649
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Vacationland
    Posts
    4,412
    Quote Originally Posted by JaytaeMoney View Post
    One of my college friends has gone off the deep end and is saying the same thing on social media lately. "If you're worried about the Delta variant, boost your immune system with natural herbs!"
    Buddy of mine who along with is wife are both massage therapist/non vaxxers says people need to improve their metabolic health and is dismayed that it's not part of the conversation around Covid.

    Can't argue it's not an issue, just not exactly a short term solution to a mutating virus with shit like Lollapalooza and Sturgis going on.

  25. #7650
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    EWA
    Posts
    20,359
    Quote Originally Posted by k2skier112 View Post
    Why are so many Republicans refusing vaccination? Because Russia is telling them to | COMMENTARY
    https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion...ifm-story.html

    Among those with something to gain is the Russian government, which is diligently working to undermine confidence in the vaccines as part of its goal of destabilizing American society. It has been spreading misinformation for years on a host of other virus-related topics, including flu and Ebola. From there, it’s a short hop to having their message amplified by conspiracy-embracing, right-wing media, whether witting or not, and by the soulless churn of algorithms on social media.

    And it doesn’t take many people amplifying a false message to have an outsized effect. According to a recent PBS story, 65% of the anti-vaccine propaganda on Twitter was due to just 12 people, some of whom are profiting from the creation of bogus skepticism through the promotion of alternative treatments and cures.
    In the old days they dropped leaflets from airplanes
    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


    Kindness is a bridge between all people

    Dunkin’ Donuts Worker Dances With Customer Who Has Autism

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •