To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

**riser4** · 01-03-2022, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

What are the odds of getting infected, even fully masked, in that waiting room COVID soup? I'd do it for my kids though. next theater production looks to be at the indoor venue. Last one was outdoors. Wonder if they're going to change back to outdoors? regardless, we're there to support. Our high school has free testing for all students, like 1500 kids.. That's pretty lucky and I'll take it.. Best of luck with basketball, but it's probably everyone so just chill and wait for the next round of instructions. They'll figure something out... Are they still faking the vac cards??

It was pretty empty. And the few souls in there were all spread out. Still, it was suboptimal. For me and for them. And ya, I'd go to the ends of the earth for my kids.

**ötzi** · 01-03-2022, 10:00 PM

Well I'm vaccinated as fuck now. J&J, Pfizer and now Moderna. I'm probably gonna get hit by a bus tomorrow.

**Harry** · 01-03-2022, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

When I had to fly from RDU to OKC to deal with my mom's end of life affairs last year I brought a couple straws in my carry on stuff to sip drinks under the mask..

In the military our gas masks had a special fitting to connect to a standard issue canteen. Worked good, it was insanely hot wearing full mop gear in the desert, had to stay hydrated. Nerve gas can’t get in, so I assume COVID can’t either ??

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**seano732** · 01-03-2022, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by ötzi

Well I'm vaccinated as fuck now. J&J, Pfizer and now Moderna. I'm probably gonna get hit by a bus tomorrow.

Pessimist……

**neufox47** · 01-04-2022, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by ötzi

Well I'm vaccinated as fuck now. J&J, Pfizer and now Moderna. I'm probably gonna get hit by a bus tomorrow.

Has it fixed any of your other ailments?

Congratulations everyone, we recorded 1M cases in a single day today.

**bennymac** · 01-04-2022, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by ötzi

Well I'm vaccinated as fuck now. J&J, Pfizer and now Moderna. I'm probably gonna get hit by a bus tomorrow.

With that level of magnetism the bus can’t help but hit you.

**neufox47** · 01-04-2022, 12:35 AM

Anyone seen a good study / study of studies on how vaccination reduces the chances of long Covid?

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**Meathelmet** · 01-04-2022, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by seano732

Pessimist……

Pessimists are realists with abundance of experience.
If it can, it will.

**highangle** · 01-04-2022, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Harry

In the military our gas masks had a special fitting to connect to a standard issue canteen. Worked good, it was insanely hot wearing full mop gear in the desert, had to stay hydrated. Nerve gas can’t get in, so I assume COVID can’t either ??

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"Interrogative: Where are we supposed to pee in a NBC environment?"

**Harry** · 01-04-2022, 07:23 AM

Depends

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**Bunion 2020** · 01-04-2022, 07:45 AM

A deputy district attorney and up-and-coming Republican political star in California’s Orange County has died abruptly after telling friends she contracted COVID-19.

Kelly Ernby, a presumed candidate for the state Assembly in 2022, was only 46 years old. According to the Los Angeles Times, she fell ill shortly after speaking out against vaccine mandates at a rally organized by Turning Point USA on Dec. 4.

“There’s nothing that matters more than our freedoms right now,” she was quoted telling the crowd during the rally at Irvine City Hall.

She died doing what she loved.

**paulster2626** · 01-04-2022, 08:15 AM

So, I got covid over xmas, was fun highly recommended. Anyway, as I still have lingering cold symptoms as I would always get when sick, I also have a booster shot scheduled for Jan 24.

Question: Should I keep the Jan 24 appointment, or postpone it? Figure I have good immunity now, and may want to extend it with the booster happening later vs. sooner. But I don't know what to do.

**thebirdhunter** · 01-04-2022, 08:21 AM

How funny, the same ol’ whiney poliassfucks who circle jerk themselves into a frenzy over guns and Trump all day everyday in polyass also dominate this thread. Poliass Pox is a perfect name for the China virus.

**Bunion 2020** · 01-04-2022, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by thebirdhunter

How funny, the same ol’ whiney poliassfucks who circle jerk themselves into a frenzy over guns and Trump all day everyday in polyass also dominate this thread. Poliass Pox is a perfect name for the China virus.

Whineyfuck says what?

**Trackhead** · 01-04-2022, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by paulster2626

So, I got covid over xmas, was fun highly recommended. Anyway, as I still have lingering cold symptoms as I would always get when sick, I also have a booster shot scheduled for Jan 24.

Question: Should I keep the Jan 24 appointment, or postpone it? Figure I have good immunity now, and may want to extend it with the booster happening later vs. sooner. But I don't know what to do.

You have hybrid "immunity" (I put immunity in italics for an obvious reason). Two shots plus infection confers a robust polyclonal response to wild type plus omicron. CDC suggests any time after recovery is ok for vax, but your Jan 24 appointment would be fine. Some might argue, "why bother", which is only a choice you can make based on your own personal risk assessment (age, comorbidities, etc). You're neutralizing antibodies will be bumped for a short time by vax+illness, but will wane per normal human physiology. Boosting will bump them again, then they will wain again. After initial antibody wane, you're running on your adaptive immune system (memory B cells) and T cells.

Get the shot? Probably an argument for/against without current definitive research/conclusion. Also nuanced based on age/risk.

Older folks get taken out when their immune system either doesn't mount effective response from vax, or is slow to wake up essentially. This is why elderly get pneumococcal vax at 65, Shingrix at 50, higher dose flu vax, etc.

**altasnob** · 01-04-2022, 09:06 AM

If paulster has strong immunity now, but that will eventually wane, why not enjoy his strong hybrid immunity today and not spooge all his immunity load by getting the booster on Jan 24? Why not wait until his strong hybrid immunity aint so strong anymore and then give it a booster shot of life in, say, 6 months?

**riser4** · 01-04-2022, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by ötzi

Well I'm vaccinated as fuck now. J&J, Pfizer and now Moderna. I'm probably gonna get hit by a bus tomorrow.

Originally Posted by seano732

Pessimist……

Optimist.

**riser4** · 01-04-2022, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Harry

In the military our gas masks had a special fitting to connect to a standard issue canteen. Worked good, it was insanely hot wearing full mop gear in the desert, had to stay hydrated. Nerve gas can’t get in, so I assume COVID can’t either ??

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Originally Posted by highangle

"Interrogative: Where are we supposed to pee in a NBC environment?"

Originally Posted by Harry

Depends

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1990s era Stilsuit. Trouser attachment for standard issue canteen. Also attaches to gas mask.

**skiskiskiskiski** · 01-04-2022, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by altasnob

If paulster has strong immunity now, but that will eventually wane, why not enjoy his strong hybrid immunity today and not spooge all his immunity load by getting the booster on Jan 24? Why not wait until his strong hybrid immunity aint so strong anymore and then give it a booster shot of life in, say, 6 months?

Paulster should get information from medical professionals and make a choice based on science.

**altasnob** · 01-04-2022, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by skiskiskiskiski

Paulster should get information from medical professionals and make a choice based on science.

True, but as someone who went to fancy schools, with fancy degrees, who has fancy friends with PHDs, MDs, ect, what makes medical professionals special on this emerging question? They have the same access to information as the rest of us. Not that the doctor's response is incorrect, but this is an interesting question with an answer that could change based on the rapidly emerging science. I am asking the TGR collective (which consists of doctors, nurses, scientist) what their opinion on this is.

I have a friend who is in the same exact situation and yes, he has asked his doctor the question who said get boosted soon after natural infection, rather than wait. Lots, and lots, of people are going to be facing this question soon.

**Adolf Allerbush** · 01-04-2022, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by altasnob

True, but as someone who went to fancy schools, with fancy degrees, who has fancy friends with PHDs, MDs, ect, what makes medical professionals special on this emerging question? They have the same access to information as the rest of us. Not that the doctor's response is incorrect, but this is an interesting question with an answer that could change based on the rapidly emerging science. I am asking the TGR collective (which consists of doctors, nurses, scientist) what their opinion on this is.

I have a friend who is in the same exact situation and yes, he has asked his doctor the question who said get boosted soon after natural infection, rather than wait. Lots, and lots, of people are going to be facing this question soon.

I was wondering the same thing...my friends that have gotten Omni recently but weren't boosted seem to have less of a need for the booster RIGHT NOW, but could wait a couple months and get boosted then with the immunity from illness is starting to wane? Maybe I'm thinking about this wrong though.

**::: :::** · 01-04-2022, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by altasnob

True, but as someone who went to fancy schools, with fancy degrees, who has fancy friends with PHDs, MDs, ect, what makes medical professionals special on this emerging question? They have the same access to information as the rest of us.

JFC

While you’re at it, please let us know why you are worth your billable rate…

**teleee** · 01-04-2022, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by ::: :::

JFC

HA! That is exactly my thoughts

**altasnob** · 01-04-2022, 09:50 AM

Oh, come on. This is TGR. I can't stand the vanilla, "talk to your doctor" advice. Give me your opinion. I don't care if it is wrong. We're smart enough to be able to decide if it is a good opinion or not. I say the same thing when people ask me legal questions. You can look up laws just as easy as any attorney. Educate yourself. Doesn't mean don't listen to the expert but it is always better if you, yourself, has a general understanding of the topic. And if you are looking for sound medical advice, don't ask the question on a fucking ski forum full of stoners.

Oh, and I do talk to my primary care doctor about medical questions. She works for Kaiser, a massive HMO. She sees, like, 50 patients a day for about 10 minutes a visit. She's a great doctor but totally swamped. And it takes several weeks or months to schedule an appointment for anything. How much time does my doctor actually have to keep up on emerging science? Goat can comment but my guess is they give them a weekly email that tells them, in bullet points, what they should be telling people.

**ex-powderbroker** · 01-04-2022, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by altasnob

Oh, come on. This is TGR. I can't stand the vanilla, "talk to your doctor" advice. Give me your opinion. I don't care if it is wrong. We're smart enough to be able to decide if it is a good opinion or not. I say the same thing when people ask me legal questions. You can look up laws just as easy as any attorney. Educate yourself. Doesn't mean don't listen to the expert but it is always better if you, yourself, has a general understanding of the topic. And if you are looking for sound medical advice, don't ask the question on a fucking ski forum full of stoners.

there we have it, do your own research guys.