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09-25-2021, 10:49 PM #13951click here
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Bad at math too. I see his point though. Even having the wrong risk estimate likely doesn't change his opinion that it's an acceptable risk. If covid killed 1% evenly across all demographics, there'd still be plenty of personal risk takers.
There was a comic around somewhere... Boomer doesn't want to do anything for climate change. Boomer's kid doesn't want to do anything for covid. Can't see any concern past my own nose so f@ck you, eh?
The disablement number deserves quantification. Dr. Griffin on TWiV's clinical update said 10% unable to return to work again this week, but mentioned in passing without discussing 10% of what. The implication seemed to be 10% of those PCR positive. If that's the case, it deserves far more attention than it gets. Hard to believe that could be slipping past public health and politicians, which leaves me uncertain it's correct. Maybe I'll send him a request to clarify.
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09-25-2021, 11:09 PM #13952
16% neurological impacts has come up enough to explain some math difficulties and make 10% unable to work seem more believable.
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09-26-2021, 04:21 AM #13953
hey mofro
we have a vaxrate of 60% here in austria and now daliy doses given are minimal atm. 1/5 daily doses as what was given in the big vaxx time. (main vaxx roll out june / july / august)
this is some data from austria... we are a tiny country in the middle of europe and generally following germany.
will this be the last wave for us too? or as we had lesser casses because of lockdowns. the first bump was the eu-shutdown not a wave
first wave could be like november to may
second wave starting now.... with 60% vaxxed
so they need to increase the pressure on the unvaxxed to flatten the second wave....????
here the us data to compare
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09-26-2021, 05:26 AM #13954Banned
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So that seems to go along with my point. If you had covid and survived you are nearly it just as protected as a vaxxed person. Why do those prior infected require a vax or weekly testing at 100+ companies, but vaxxed don't? Vaxxed just gets a total pass even though they can carry and spread covid.
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09-26-2021, 07:37 AM #13955
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09-26-2021, 08:03 AM #13956Banned
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09-26-2021, 08:16 AM #13957Banned
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Perfect! It makes perfect sense! People who don't want to vax can get their lymph nodes biopsied!
I'm sure that's safer and way less invasive than one of the vaccine choices available. Probably cheaper and less likely of getting a Bill Gates microchip, too!
Brilliant!
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09-26-2021, 08:19 AM #13958
Benny would you mind sharing the source of that graphic? Thanks it's just the view I've been looking for.
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-26-2021, 08:27 AM #13959
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09-26-2021, 08:47 AM #13961
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09-26-2021, 08:48 AM #13962“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
Kindness is a bridge between all people
Dunkin’ Donuts Worker Dances With Customer Who Has Autism
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09-26-2021, 08:54 AM #13963
Graphic looks suspiciously like the charts of US counties Trump vs Biden.
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-26-2021, 09:04 AM #13964
WA DOH is showing Walla Walla County 50% fully vaccinated (of the entire population), Pierce 48.3%, and King 67.6% (I believe King is one of the highest in the nation, particularly for large counties).
Pierce voted 54-43 for Biden, and is same color as Walla Walla on map above, so not all motivated by politics.
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09-26-2021, 09:14 AM #13965
Atlantic article on why US vaccination rate has fallen to #36 on earth, provides three major reasons:
No group is more likely to reject the vaccines than young Americans without insurance. Members of this group are disproportionately young and low-income and lack easy access to a doctor if something goes wrong. Many of them don’t know that the vaccine is free. Meanwhile, the fear of side effects is one of the most common reasons people give for avoiding the vaccines. This fear, compounded by a feeling of estrangement from the health system, is keeping many Americans from getting vaccinated.
Americans aren’t radically different from Europeans on how much we trust public authorities or how readily we accept public-health restrictions to fight the pandemic. What makes the U.S. exceptional is our unusually low support for vaccines in general. The U.S. had significant levels of vaccine hesitancy before the pandemic.
And of course, the politicization of vaccines in America.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...nation/620201/
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09-26-2021, 09:14 AM #13966Banned
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09-26-2021, 09:18 AM #13967
75-22. But that's not surprising. King County is one of the most liberal, affluent, large counties in America.
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09-26-2021, 09:19 AM #13968
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09-26-2021, 09:34 AM #13969Banned
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09-26-2021, 09:35 AM #13970
It’s willful ignorance among the young, the only contact they have is “friends” on their favorite social media platform. It’s a smartphone bubble. They’re incurious about the world at large. I sat down with some younger coworkers last year and talked about Covid. It was at a time with almost 3k deaths a day and I told them that. They all looked at me in horror and disbelief like it was some great surprise. They need help finding real objective information from government sources. It’s really kind of sad, they’re not stupid just isolated from reality.
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09-26-2021, 09:38 AM #13971
94 y/o Mom reports sore arm after Phizer Booster. No complaining from her. She is tough.
Who cares about fighting chimps and gorillas, I bet my Mom would kick skidog’s ass in a cage match.
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09-26-2021, 09:40 AM #13972Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-26-2021, 09:42 AM #13973
Yes, but he’s an excellent driver. Four minutes to Wapner
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09-26-2021, 09:48 AM #13974
I believe care should be taken with the meaning of this map -
the y-axis (greens) document vaccination rate ;
the x-axis (purple) documents hospitalizations per 100 hospital beds, And ranges only to 16 (or more) /100 hospital beds ;
( to me, a far better measure on the x-axis would be percent of ICU beds occupied by covid patients )
urban areas ,,, I do not know the statistics of health care administration, but
it seems to me this map shows the demand on medical care for the timeframe documented, more than any measure of covid infection rate.
respectfully. skiJ
postscript edit -
it seems to me, urban areas are better able to provide care due to increased hospital capacity
( north Idaho has grown dramatically recently; I don't know that medical care capacity has kept pace with population growth
( intuitively, given the proximity to Spokane, I do not expect so. ) )
Please. get vaccinated.
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09-26-2021, 10:01 AM #13975Banned
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This isn’t about teamwork lol you guys have literally no argument against previously infected people being a large risk to anyone. Unless their antibodies have waned. Which is literally the same thing as someone who was previously vaccinated. Your only argument is to “get the shot because it’ll make you superhuman!” Which is a joke. I’m not required to get the shingles vaccine until I’m 50(honestly not sure since I have ~20 years to worry about that) why? Because there’s not a significant risk. I’d argue the same with previous infection and under the age of 40. Why is that such a problem for you guys? Because “muh rights, you need to get vaxx’d??”
sounds awfully hypocritical
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