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01-19-2022, 04:03 PM #19951
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01-19-2022, 04:15 PM #19952
Nope. This has been explained to you by multiple people multiple ways. You are ignoring that rather than saying you don't understand, thus you are rightly accused of being a troll.
You guys are totally clueless on how a huge chunk of the US thinks.
But in Clown World, people with room temp IQs are applauded for demanding that their understanding of the world be acknowledged as the true limit of understanding.
Expertise is dead.Originally Posted by blurred
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01-19-2022, 04:24 PM #19953
Mofro, is a vaccine specifically developed for Omicron a new vaccine or is it exactly the same as the three Pfizer shots I already got? When you say "Influenza vaccines are re-formulated each year to account for different strains" does "re-forumlated" mean the same thing as "new?"
Summit, if I don't understand what it is you are talking about, 90% of TGR readers don't understand either and just don't bother to admit it.
Yes. Why wouldn't you call this "new"? Anyway, like I said, it's semantics. If I replace "new" with "re-formulated" like Mofro used, would it make you happy? Or if rather than call it "new," we call it "variant specific vaccine" (that's what I've seen some articles refer it to).Last edited by altasnob; 01-19-2022 at 04:45 PM.
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01-19-2022, 04:27 PM #19954
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01-19-2022, 04:27 PM #19955
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01-19-2022, 04:28 PM #19956
( post preservation )
no, altasnob - it is not a new vaccine; it is changed - not new.
it does not have anything to do with 'layman's terms' - it is You demanding that your definifition be satisfied. Just no.
Yes, You are pushing buttons. it is a form of trolling - Just criticism, You offer no solution. You use phrases like, "little gated community" to refer to "the US".
'the US' is hardly " a little gated community. "
You insult the people ( "Bubba" ) you appear to seek to represent.
with 9.8Billion people vaccinated, I would say a Good start has been made
( the delivery of vaccination is not the responsibilty of "Scientists") --
end part one. tjLast edited by skiJ; 01-19-2022 at 06:28 PM.
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01-19-2022, 04:29 PM #19957
( post preservation, volume two )
altasnob. Do you really consider "the US" a "little gated community" ?
news flash : by my understanding of that term, it is Not ( a gated community )
( how do you included the homeless populations in Seattle and Portland in your "little gated community" ? )
I have addressed your trolling above -
( please ) offer an alternative solution.
Your criticism of the Real, Good Work. ... Yes, it is trolling - Because You don't offer an alternative.
' Scientists develop vaccines, but they don't administer them. '
Well, altasnob, we live in an age of specialization. it is not the responsibility of the of the Scientists to design the mechanism of distribution, And I would say with 9.8Billion doses administered in a year, that Work is being done.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/c...-distribution/
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
29Million doses are being administered daily.
I believe that is a good start.
(( altasnob. If you want to equate vaccination with "shooting up" , I do not believe you can ever be part of the solution. ( troll away, poor thing. ) ))
My thanks to those who have offered your expertise in response to this junk.
LSL, Summit, Mofro ; MUnicorn, Mult- - Thank you All. And there are others... Thank you.
if you are reading, you know my message : Please maintain your vaccination immunity with timely boosters.
good night. tjLast edited by skiJ; 01-19-2022 at 05:49 PM.
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01-19-2022, 04:37 PM #19958
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01-19-2022, 04:45 PM #19959
If we do nothing at the beginning of the pandemic, just go on life as usual, fuck it attitude as you're suggesting, the hospitals would've been overrun and there would've been much excess death. There probably has been a lot of excess death in the states who have given zero fucks, take Florida for example. They even deflate their COVID numbers to make it seem less severe down there and it's still a total shit show. So I guess I don't agree that we shouldn't have been concerned primarily at first with the USA. What do you suggest the USA do at the beginning of the pandemic to enforce SD measures or what have you in other countries? Seems like a fools errand.
Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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01-19-2022, 04:54 PM #19960
Maybe a way to think about it would be a different version of a similar airplane...like how there are Boeing 747SP, 747-400, 74708, VC-25, etc. They're different, but not different enough to be starting from scratch....whereas comparing the Wright Flyer to a Dreamliner is a completely different aircraft...like comparing the polio vaccine and the mRNA covid vaccines...very different so the initial mRNAs had to go through trials but slight adjustments do not need as rigorous of trials.
Damn shame, throwing away a perfectly good white boy like that
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01-19-2022, 05:04 PM #19961
Well, I’m still here. Woke up from a 3 day nyquil nap, and felt like jogging. Too cold and under quarantine. When it hit me Sunday night it was like 3 Para at Mt Longdon. Flares, gunfire in all directions, delirium. Wow, thank god it didn’t continue. Told my accountant his wife was a dumb ass for not being Vaxed. I blame the NyQuil.
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01-19-2022, 06:38 PM #19962Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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01-19-2022, 06:53 PM #19963
altasnob arguing with mofro about vaccines is pretty damned funny. and telling.
"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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01-19-2022, 06:54 PM #19964
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01-19-2022, 07:01 PM #19965
I am not remotely in the same league as Mofro and Summit science-wise and don't belong in the same sentence.
You do have a point that some people will be suspicious of an omicron vaccine because it hasn't been tested. The same unvaccinated people who are suspicious of the first generation vaccines because they "haven't been tested".
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01-19-2022, 07:12 PM #19966
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01-19-2022, 07:13 PM #19967
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01-19-2022, 07:20 PM #19968
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01-19-2022, 07:24 PM #19969
Thanks for the response dumbed down to my 6th grade NYTimes intellect. When I read about Omicron specific vaccines currently in the works, they use words like "clinical studies." So I assume there is some kind of of clinical trial requirement before it is approved for release. If that's not the case, why don't they just release an Omicron specific vaccine today for those who want it? It's already being manufactured today.
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01-19-2022, 07:24 PM #19970
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01-19-2022, 07:27 PM #19971
I think you are going for the idea of an amended TC... less work than a new type certificate, but still a ton of work and there is a fuck ton more different between a VC-25 vs a 747-100 than there is between say the Pfizer mRNA vaccine and the tweaked version for Omicron. Amended type certs might be analogous to flu vaccine updates swapping strains, but this is out of my expertise.
Omicron evades the immune system (largely) by "looking" different and replicating quickly. It does this with mutations to significantly less than 1% of its genetic code.
Easier analogy
The "tweaks" for a COVID mRNA vaccine to make it target Omicron is more taking a new Audi that Car and Driver reviewed and NHTSA did crash tests on, then "tweaking" it by painting the car a different color, swapping the headlight bulbs, stripping off the badging, adding some LED accent lights and a window tint. It looks different, but it isn't a new car.
Does that car need to go through crash testing again? Hell naw!Originally Posted by blurred
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01-19-2022, 07:44 PM #19972Registered User
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01-19-2022, 08:18 PM #19974
Why’d you jump right to the monoclonal antibodies?
How’d you get to the front of the line?
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01-19-2022, 08:20 PM #19975
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